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Statement from Eddy Cue: "If this Court prohibits Google from sharing revenue for search distribution, Apple would have two unacceptable choices. It could stil
by ramsj 2y ago
Statement from Eddy Cue:
"If this Court prohibits Google from sharing revenue for search distribution, Apple would have two unacceptable choices. It could still let users in the United States choose Google as a search engine for Safari, but Apple could not receive any share of the resulting revenue, so Google would obtain valuable access to Apple's users at no cost. Or Apple could remove Google Search as a choice on Safari. But because customers prefer Google, removing it as an option would harm both Apple and its customers."
and "... it is unlikely that Apple will decide to create a search engine in the future, regardless of what remedies are ordered in this case."
Source: https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/zgvoalybovd/apple%20declaration.pdf https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/zgvoalybovd/...
- BadHumans 2y agoWhat's the problem with option 1? Users have a choice on what to pick, they pick Google because they prefer Google. Is users having choice foreign to Apple?
- sitkack 2y agoApple should be able to make a large amount of profit of that user's choice. Choice isn't free!
- ksec 2y ago>but Apple could not receive any share of the resulting revenue, so Google would obtain valuable access to Apple's users at no cost That is entitled. Should every web site share profits with Apple because they are accessed via Safari.
- bangonkeyboard 2y agoWhy are people who go out of their way to select Google search "Apple's users" but never "Google's users"?
- rubyfan 2y agoNothing is stopping those Google users from installing Chrome.
- criddell 2y agoI don't see the problem with option #1. Apple is sounding like a cellular company pre-iPhone where the carriers demanded a cut of every transaction on the phone. They saw users as their asset and did everything they could to but themselves in the middle of every phone transaction. I'm talking about the time of $3 ringtones. For Apple today, I can understand the argument for fees in the app store because there are real development and ongoing maintenance costs for that. But why should they get paid for a company to be a search engine option? How are they earning that money?
- lazide 2y agoThey’re complaining they would lose billions, while it helps no one. Wouldn’t you complain too?
- arghwhat 2y agoSure, but it would be for deaf ears. Losing revenue is not an issue or argument - it's not like Apple would be unable to operate.
- lazide 2y agoWhen we’re talking billions of dollars, things are never that simple.
- lazide 2y agoA example - the current average lifetime earnings for an American (aka total money earned over their lifetime) is $1.8mln USD for men, and $1.1mln USD for women. That provides for everything for them - raising a family (on average), a retirement, expenses of living 60-80 years, supporting all the joy, pain, love and loss of a lifetime. And paying for the total economic work of that average American for at least 40 years - a lifetime of plumbing, welding, repair work, hairdressing, stocking shelves, managing people - you name it. Apple is receiving (last I checked) $20 billion USD/yr from Google for this. That is the money required to support an entire lifetime of living for between 11,000 to 18,000 average Americans. Every year. Alternatively, at the median American salary of $59,634, that is also enough money to employ 333,000+ average Americans for that year. How much fighting do you think would be appropriate for that? Probably a least a couple of lawyers and lobbyists working full time on it, eh?
- jncfhnb 2y agoI hope Eddy Cue, SVP of Apple Services, gets to explain that quote in antitrust testimony at some point when he has to explain how Apple’s policy doesn’t assume ownership of users.
- 1123581321 2y agoWouldn’t it work to his advantage? A key defense in such a trial would be distinguishing between restricting (owning) users and setting defaults.
- jncfhnb 2y agoAnd the quote suggests the former
- 1123581321 2y agoJudge Mehta would be slightly more incisive. :)
- CamelCaseName 2y ago> "... it is unlikely that Apple will decide to create a search engine in the future, regardless of what remedies are ordered in this case." Maybe Google should stop paying $15B/year on its own then...
- xbmcuser 2y agoSo Apple is the monopoly abusing it's position and I thought it was google anti competitive behaviour that was being punished.
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- sitkack 2y agoIf we don't collude in this way, we are both leaving money on the table. We must do this.
- from-nibly 2y agoMy neighbor has access to have a conversation with me. Should he be paying Apple since I use a Mac?