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Will be interesting to see how the Valkey community reacts to this

bhouston 2y ago
I don't think it changes the negative business actions that the company Redis has been doing. But it likely means that Redis may actually evolve now, rather than being a static target.
reconditerose 2y ago
Valkey maintainer here. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I worked with antirez a bit before he left the project in 2020, and I still look fondly back on that time since he was a wonderful person and he helped me learn a lot. I wish he had considered coming to work with Valkey instead of Redis, but maybe we'll find some some way to work together that benefits both communities.
- PeterZaitsev 2y ago
  I think antirez has made very rational economic decision. For Open Source Redis/Valkey community though it would be better if he had joined Valkey of course. Note though it is not certain he even could - the Non Compete when you have significant compensation in cash or equity can be much stronger and run a lot longer than employment related
- antirez 2y ago
  Appreciate your kind words, and I'm very happy it was a good experience to work together, it was cool for me too. I hope there will be ways to exchange infos and hack :)
  - reconditerose 2y ago
    Everything we do is open-source, so you're free to take it and incorporate it back into Redis. (Although I'm more into rewriting the data structures to more efficient on modern CPU hardware). Keep some comments out in the open like your discussion about vector sets to keep the conversation going. For the record, I really don't like the vector set idea, but I'm not one to dish out hot takes on hacker news.
    - antirez 2y ago
      Thank you, I'll encourage my colleagues to take everything we can from ValKey, because this is how it works: as the BSD allowed the fork, the BSD allows less liberal licenses to take back. The magic of very liberal licenses is that: they speed up human evolution (and we tried hard to retain the BSD for this reason). About Vector Sets: it's absolutely ok to disagree here; but what is a good thing about having multiple forks of the original Redis is that you can see it as an optimization to search for the better Redis :D The Vector Set stuff, just to be clear, was not "company stimulated", it's something that I really want and I which I strongly believe.

I don't think it changes the negative business actions that the company Redis has been doing. But it likely means that Redis may actually evolve now, rather than being a static target.

reconditerose 2y ago

Valkey maintainer here. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I worked with antirez a bit before he left the project in 2020, and I still look fondly back on that time since he was a wonderful person and he helped me learn a lot. I wish he had considered coming to work with Valkey instead of Redis, but maybe we'll find some some way to work together that benefits both communities.

PeterZaitsev 2y ago
I think antirez has made very rational economic decision. For Open Source Redis/Valkey community though it would be better if he had joined Valkey of course. Note though it is not certain he even could - the Non Compete when you have significant compensation in cash or equity can be much stronger and run a lot longer than employment related
antirez 2y ago
Appreciate your kind words, and I'm very happy it was a good experience to work together, it was cool for me too. I hope there will be ways to exchange infos and hack :)
- reconditerose 2y ago
  Everything we do is open-source, so you're free to take it and incorporate it back into Redis. (Although I'm more into rewriting the data structures to more efficient on modern CPU hardware). Keep some comments out in the open like your discussion about vector sets to keep the conversation going. For the record, I really don't like the vector set idea, but I'm not one to dish out hot takes on hacker news.
  - antirez 2y ago
    Thank you, I'll encourage my colleagues to take everything we can from ValKey, because this is how it works: as the BSD allowed the fork, the BSD allows less liberal licenses to take back. The magic of very liberal licenses is that: they speed up human evolution (and we tried hard to retain the BSD for this reason). About Vector Sets: it's absolutely ok to disagree here; but what is a good thing about having multiple forks of the original Redis is that you can see it as an optimization to search for the better Redis :D The Vector Set stuff, just to be clear, was not "company stimulated", it's something that I really want and I which I strongly believe.