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Russia is putting everything it has to the Ukrainian front since 2.5 years and signs of exhaustion are clearly visible. They have lived up their Soviet tank res

by sydd 2y ago

Russia is putting everything it has to the Ukrainian front since 2.5 years and signs of exhaustion are clearly visible. They have lived up their Soviet tank reserves, are offering astronomical amounts of money for soldiers, are using north Korean ammunition, huge inflation etc

TheAlchemist 2y ago
That's what I'm thinking too. But if that's true, it means Ukraine has a real fighting chance to put them on their knees. In any case, this seems like a major loss for Russia.
- oldpersonintx 2y ago
  Ukraine is also exhausted its time for America to stop pushing Ukrainians into the firing line
  - talldayo 2y ago
    It's time to double down and hope Russia gives up Crimea like they just abandoned Syria. Even Donald Trump is not stupid enough to miss an opportunity to play his enemies against one another.
  - scott_w 2y ago
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    - instig007 2y ago
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        instig007 2y ago
        how did you check it?
        scott_w 2y ago
        Here's a news report: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/26/europe/ukraine-zelensky-evacuation-intl/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/26/europe/ukraine-zelensky-e... I'll translate the quote to your native language for you: Мне нужны боеприпасы, а не поездка I apologise if it's not exact, I used Google Translate.
        instig007 2y ago
        > I'll translate the quote to your native language for you that's very presumptious of you > Here's a news report are you saying that CNN knows about the conditions and preferences of Ukrainians better than Ukrainians in Kiyv? "You might want to stop taking [CNN] as your news source."
        scott_w 2y ago
        > are you saying that CNN knows about the conditions and preferences of Ukrainians better than Ukrainians in Kiyv? I'm saying CNN knows more about the conditions and preferences of the Ukrainian people than you do. I've yet to see a shred of evidence for any of your insinuations.
        instig007 2y ago
        > I'm saying CNN knows more about the conditions and preferences of the Ukrainian people than you do delusional indeed, and a cowardly one > I've yet to see a shred of evidence for any of your insinuations. I'm yet to see you learn proper English. When shall I expect you arriving in Kiyv to volunteer straight into the war trenches?
        scott_w 2y ago
    - severino 2y ago
      Are you sure about that? When Russia annexed Crimea firing a couple of shots in 2014, we couldn't see all that horror you talk about, so I don't think it would be what would happen. In fact, there's a lot of people in Eastern Ukraine that has been hoping for Russia to start this military operation. OTOH, we have records of killings and rapes by American military personnel in Iraq when the US invaded the country back in 2003. And they did that unimpeded. Maybe you supported that invasion.
      - dralley 2y ago
        >In fact, there's a lot of people in Eastern Ukraine that has been hoping for Russia to start this military operation. There were some, perhaps 1% to 2% of the population. There was not "a lot" and there never was.
      - scott_w 2y ago
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        severino 2y ago
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        scott_w 2y ago
        > No, you're not sure. You don't know what happened there, as it was not possible to conduct a serious investigation, and I'm not sure we will ever know. Yes, I am 100% sure because the reporting was widespread, accurately conducted, and the Russians were widely condemned. Sexual violence continues in Ukraine: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/29/carved-on-bodies-and-souls-russias-use-of-male-sexual-torture-in-ukraine https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/29/carved-on-bodi... In fact, I'll save myself the effort and just give you a full list to read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine#Citations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_the_Russian... > I've never been to Moscow nor Russia I think you should visit, I hear it's lovely this time of year.
    - oldpersonintx 2y ago
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- postingawayonhn 2y ago
  > it means Ukraine has a real fighting chance to put them on their knees. Yes, and this point has been obvious to many for the last two years. The problem has been the west drip feeding aid into the largest war since WW2. We actually have to define the objective as reclaiming all Ukranian territory (at least to the pre-2022 borders) and supply them appropriately. It might be expensive in the short-term but we can afford it, can seize the $300B of Russian assets, and will be able to reduce our defensive forces in the future use to the reduced Russian threat. The problem now is that we may have run out of time with Ukraine experiencing significant manpower issues. They could mobilise a lot more people, but that will mean women and younger men (currently only 25+) from a generation that is already very thin. We can ask Ukraine to do this, but we they will need an ironclad commitment that we will supply them with everything they ask for.
  - thunky 2y ago
    > We can ask Ukraine to do this, but we they will need an ironclad commitment that we will supply them with everything they ask for Sounds like a good way to escalate the war.
  - fooker 2y ago
    The purpose of the drip feeding is, unfortunately, to get Russia closer to a total collapse rather than a quick loss for them to retreat and build up their strength again for the next 20ish years to repeat it. It’s not ideal for Ukraine right now.
    - postingawayonhn 2y ago
      I have heard this argument before, but I'm not particularly convinced. Either way pretty much all their pre-war modern equipment has already been destroyed. Now they're fighting with really old stuff like T-55s pulled from storage, newly manufactured equipment, or whatever North Korea thinks it can spare.
      - brabel 2y ago
        Your impression of Russia's war capabilities is vastly mistaken. "According to Joseph Fitsanakis, professor of intelligence and security studies at Coastal Carolina University, “Russian military production is currently outpacing that of the US and all of NATO member states combined. This may be hard to believe, but Russia is obligated to do it if it is going to outpace the support given to Ukraine." Source: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/2/russia-races-ahead-of-nato-in-weapons-production-for-ukraine-war-sipri https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/2/russia-races-ahead-...
- dyauspitr 2y ago
  Maybe but our Putin loving president might do everything he can to help Russia once he’s in power this January.
- throw0101d 2y ago
  > That's what I'm thinking too. But if that's true, it means Ukraine has a real fighting chance to put them on their knees. Which may depend on continued US support from the newly elected administration.
  - Dah00n 2y ago
    I mostly depend on manpower. Which they are lacking.
- mahirsaid 2y ago
  This is the result of allies helping Ukraine I don’t think they have any interest in Ukraine, but the alternative is Russia seizing Ukraine. This would have been possible 6 months after the war started. Remember that more than half of Ukrainians are not technically supporting zelensky. This conflict like many others is over complicated yet it's simplified in the west.
  - mongol 2y ago
    What do you mean with not technically supporting Zelensky? Do they not want to resist Russia like he does? Or do they prefer someone else to do it instead?
  - scott_w 2y ago
    > Remember that more than half of Ukrainians are not technically supporting zelensky. This is normal in any political system, even during times of war. The UK during WWII still had many Labour MPs, meaning a significant portion of the British electorate did NOT support Churchill by definition. However, most people were united in their opposition to the Nazis. That didn’t stop them voting out Churchill the first chance they got once the war was over. I don’t think anyone is seriously naive enough to think the entirety of Ukraine loves Zelenskyy without reservation, however its clear that the Ukrainian people have no desire to let the Russians expand their campaign of torture, rape and murder throughout the country.
tim333 2y ago
The Ukrainian "Losses of the Russian military" figures are quite impressive. Currently showing 750,000 personnel, 9500 tanks, 21000 artillery systems. Obviously the numbers are something of a guess but it's a lot. A recent update: https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1h9c3dt/losses_of_the_russian_military_to_8122024/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1h9c3dt/losses_of_...
EasyMark 2y ago
I really have hopes that they can reach a ceasefire and that Ukraine can come into NATO to prevent further Russian aggression. Ideally let those Ukrainians who want to enter the “new” Ukraine. I think Putin is of the mind that he has to win something or his role as Russian dictator has a very short life expectancy, and he is quite desperate. I don’t think he will give up any of the land that Russia has acquired though.

by sydd 2y ago

TheAlchemist 2y ago

That's what I'm thinking too. But if that's true, it means Ukraine has a real fighting chance to put them on their knees. In any case, this seems like a major loss for Russia.

oldpersonintx 2y ago
Ukraine is also exhausted its time for America to stop pushing Ukrainians into the firing line
- talldayo 2y ago
  It's time to double down and hope Russia gives up Crimea like they just abandoned Syria. Even Donald Trump is not stupid enough to miss an opportunity to play his enemies against one another.
- scott_w 2y ago
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  - instig007 2y ago
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      - instig007 2y ago
        how did you check it?
        scott_w 2y ago
        Here's a news report: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/26/europe/ukraine-zelensky-evacuation-intl/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/26/europe/ukraine-zelensky-e... I'll translate the quote to your native language for you: Мне нужны боеприпасы, а не поездка I apologise if it's not exact, I used Google Translate.
        instig007 2y ago
        > I'll translate the quote to your native language for you that's very presumptious of you > Here's a news report are you saying that CNN knows about the conditions and preferences of Ukrainians better than Ukrainians in Kiyv? "You might want to stop taking [CNN] as your news source."
        scott_w 2y ago
        > are you saying that CNN knows about the conditions and preferences of Ukrainians better than Ukrainians in Kiyv? I'm saying CNN knows more about the conditions and preferences of the Ukrainian people than you do. I've yet to see a shred of evidence for any of your insinuations.
        instig007 2y ago
        > I'm saying CNN knows more about the conditions and preferences of the Ukrainian people than you do delusional indeed, and a cowardly one > I've yet to see a shred of evidence for any of your insinuations. I'm yet to see you learn proper English. When shall I expect you arriving in Kiyv to volunteer straight into the war trenches?
        scott_w 2y ago
  - severino 2y ago
    Are you sure about that? When Russia annexed Crimea firing a couple of shots in 2014, we couldn't see all that horror you talk about, so I don't think it would be what would happen. In fact, there's a lot of people in Eastern Ukraine that has been hoping for Russia to start this military operation. OTOH, we have records of killings and rapes by American military personnel in Iraq when the US invaded the country back in 2003. And they did that unimpeded. Maybe you supported that invasion.
    - dralley 2y ago
      >In fact, there's a lot of people in Eastern Ukraine that has been hoping for Russia to start this military operation. There were some, perhaps 1% to 2% of the population. There was not "a lot" and there never was.
    - scott_w 2y ago
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      - severino 2y ago
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        scott_w 2y ago
        > No, you're not sure. You don't know what happened there, as it was not possible to conduct a serious investigation, and I'm not sure we will ever know. Yes, I am 100% sure because the reporting was widespread, accurately conducted, and the Russians were widely condemned. Sexual violence continues in Ukraine: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/29/carved-on-bodies-and-souls-russias-use-of-male-sexual-torture-in-ukraine https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/29/carved-on-bodi... In fact, I'll save myself the effort and just give you a full list to read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine#Citations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_the_Russian... > I've never been to Moscow nor Russia I think you should visit, I hear it's lovely this time of year.
  - oldpersonintx 2y ago
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postingawayonhn 2y ago
> it means Ukraine has a real fighting chance to put them on their knees. Yes, and this point has been obvious to many for the last two years. The problem has been the west drip feeding aid into the largest war since WW2. We actually have to define the objective as reclaiming all Ukranian territory (at least to the pre-2022 borders) and supply them appropriately. It might be expensive in the short-term but we can afford it, can seize the $300B of Russian assets, and will be able to reduce our defensive forces in the future use to the reduced Russian threat. The problem now is that we may have run out of time with Ukraine experiencing significant manpower issues. They could mobilise a lot more people, but that will mean women and younger men (currently only 25+) from a generation that is already very thin. We can ask Ukraine to do this, but we they will need an ironclad commitment that we will supply them with everything they ask for.
- thunky 2y ago
  > We can ask Ukraine to do this, but we they will need an ironclad commitment that we will supply them with everything they ask for Sounds like a good way to escalate the war.
- fooker 2y ago
  The purpose of the drip feeding is, unfortunately, to get Russia closer to a total collapse rather than a quick loss for them to retreat and build up their strength again for the next 20ish years to repeat it. It’s not ideal for Ukraine right now.
  - postingawayonhn 2y ago
    I have heard this argument before, but I'm not particularly convinced. Either way pretty much all their pre-war modern equipment has already been destroyed. Now they're fighting with really old stuff like T-55s pulled from storage, newly manufactured equipment, or whatever North Korea thinks it can spare.
    - brabel 2y ago
      Your impression of Russia's war capabilities is vastly mistaken. "According to Joseph Fitsanakis, professor of intelligence and security studies at Coastal Carolina University, “Russian military production is currently outpacing that of the US and all of NATO member states combined. This may be hard to believe, but Russia is obligated to do it if it is going to outpace the support given to Ukraine." Source: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/2/russia-races-ahead-of-nato-in-weapons-production-for-ukraine-war-sipri https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/2/russia-races-ahead-...
dyauspitr 2y ago
Maybe but our Putin loving president might do everything he can to help Russia once he’s in power this January.
throw0101d 2y ago
> That's what I'm thinking too. But if that's true, it means Ukraine has a real fighting chance to put them on their knees. Which may depend on continued US support from the newly elected administration.
- Dah00n 2y ago
  I mostly depend on manpower. Which they are lacking.
mahirsaid 2y ago
This is the result of allies helping Ukraine I don’t think they have any interest in Ukraine, but the alternative is Russia seizing Ukraine. This would have been possible 6 months after the war started. Remember that more than half of Ukrainians are not technically supporting zelensky. This conflict like many others is over complicated yet it's simplified in the west.
- mongol 2y ago
  What do you mean with not technically supporting Zelensky? Do they not want to resist Russia like he does? Or do they prefer someone else to do it instead?
- scott_w 2y ago
  > Remember that more than half of Ukrainians are not technically supporting zelensky. This is normal in any political system, even during times of war. The UK during WWII still had many Labour MPs, meaning a significant portion of the British electorate did NOT support Churchill by definition. However, most people were united in their opposition to the Nazis. That didn’t stop them voting out Churchill the first chance they got once the war was over. I don’t think anyone is seriously naive enough to think the entirety of Ukraine loves Zelenskyy without reservation, however its clear that the Ukrainian people have no desire to let the Russians expand their campaign of torture, rape and murder throughout the country.

tim333 2y ago

The Ukrainian "Losses of the Russian military" figures are quite impressive. Currently showing 750,000 personnel, 9500 tanks, 21000 artillery systems. Obviously the numbers are something of a guess but it's a lot. A recent update: https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1h9c3dt/losses_of_the_russian_military_to_8122024/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1h9c3dt/losses_of_...

EasyMark 2y ago

I really have hopes that they can reach a ceasefire and that Ukraine can come into NATO to prevent further Russian aggression. Ideally let those Ukrainians who want to enter the “new” Ukraine. I think Putin is of the mind that he has to win something or his role as Russian dictator has a very short life expectancy, and he is quite desperate. I don’t think he will give up any of the land that Russia has acquired though.