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According to Wikipedia, kyivinsider.com was founded with a grant from European Endowment for Democracy which like its American cousin, National Endowment for De

According to Wikipedia, kyivinsider.com was founded with a grant from European Endowment for Democracy which like its American cousin, National Endowment for Democracy, is an NGO explicitly set up by Western intelligence agencies to push pro NATO narratives.

pmalynin 2y ago
While that statement has a grain of truth (NED having being created as a result of Reagan's NSDD-77 directive) I would rather eat democratic / neoliberal propaganda slop rather than what Russia / China (and their allies) are pushing. This comment kind of reeks of a particular kind of odour that is not quite whataboutism but is very similar to FSB demoralization propaganda. Given your account's relatively young age and other comments I somewhat feel you might have an ulterior motive?
aguaviva 2y ago
According to Wikipedia, kyivinsider.com ... Funny, the string "kyivinsider.com" does not appear in Wikipedia at all.
- Aloisius 2y ago
  I checked and you're right - I could find nothing about Kyiv Insider on Wikipedia. Clearly the Western conspiracy extends further than anyone realized... or something.
  - aguaviva 2y ago
    Indeed. It seems we're just not meant to know the truth.
threeseed 2y ago
Looking through the grants list for NED: https://www.ned.org/explore-all-grants/ https://www.ned.org/explore-all-grants/ Not seeing anything related to NATO and a lot of noble humanitarian efforts.
- DiogenesKynikos 2y ago
  There's a famous quote from the founder of NED [0]: > "A lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA" In the 1960s-70s, the US government found that covert foreign influence operations run by the CIA could seriously backfire when they were exposed. That's the reason why NED was founded. The idea was that a lot of this foreign influence can be done out in the open, removing the risk of scandal from exposure. It's an interesting approach that seems to have worked for the US. 0. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1991/09/22/innocence-abroad-the-new-world-of-spyless-coups/92bb989a-de6e-4bb8-99b9-462c76b59a16/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1991/09/22/i...

pmalynin 2y ago

While that statement has a grain of truth (NED having being created as a result of Reagan's NSDD-77 directive) I would rather eat democratic / neoliberal propaganda slop rather than what Russia / China (and their allies) are pushing. This comment kind of reeks of a particular kind of odour that is not quite whataboutism but is very similar to FSB demoralization propaganda. Given your account's relatively young age and other comments I somewhat feel you might have an ulterior motive?

aguaviva 2y ago

According to Wikipedia, kyivinsider.com ... Funny, the string "kyivinsider.com" does not appear in Wikipedia at all.

Aloisius 2y ago
I checked and you're right - I could find nothing about Kyiv Insider on Wikipedia. Clearly the Western conspiracy extends further than anyone realized... or something.
- aguaviva 2y ago
  Indeed. It seems we're just not meant to know the truth.

threeseed 2y ago

Looking through the grants list for NED: https://www.ned.org/explore-all-grants/ https://www.ned.org/explore-all-grants/ Not seeing anything related to NATO and a lot of noble humanitarian efforts.

DiogenesKynikos 2y ago
There's a famous quote from the founder of NED [0]: > "A lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA" In the 1960s-70s, the US government found that covert foreign influence operations run by the CIA could seriously backfire when they were exposed. That's the reason why NED was founded. The idea was that a lot of this foreign influence can be done out in the open, removing the risk of scandal from exposure. It's an interesting approach that seems to have worked for the US. 0. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1991/09/22/innocence-abroad-the-new-world-of-spyless-coups/92bb989a-de6e-4bb8-99b9-462c76b59a16/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1991/09/22/i...