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Propaganda of the deed? I guess suspects will be a list of people who have been paying into United Health Care insurance who thought they were covered, but got

Propaganda of the deed? I guess suspects will be a list of people who have been paying into United Health Care insurance who thought they were covered, but got turned down, possibly for a terminal illness, for greater profits.

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matt123456789 2y ago
I can write that query for you: > select * from subscribers
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globalise83 2y ago
"When they took everything he had, they left him with nothing to lose"
behringer 2y ago
Good thing for the shooter, that's probably 10s of thousands of suspects in the area.
octokatt 2y ago
Adding the ProPublica article which talks about United Healthcare specifically denying claims for terminal diseases for greater profits. https://www.propublica.org/article/unitedhealth-healthcare-insurance-denial-ulcerative-colitis https://www.propublica.org/article/unitedhealth-healthcare-i... edit: We do not know the shooters motivations, nor do I presume to know. But wanted to add a link for context to the above comment to show context for the statement.
- Teever 2y ago
  I'm really surprised that we don't see violent action like this from terminal patients who have nothing to lose.
  - LightHugger 2y ago
    People who are so sick often can't do very much, it's truly evil to scam people in that position. Maybe relatives though.
    - Teever 2y ago
      But enough people are given a terminal diagnosis from relatively minor symptoms that will lead to their death in 6 months. I think it's a really good open question as to why more unhinged Americans do school shootings than healthcare insurance executive shootings. I'd love to read a sociology paper on it.
      - sbalough 2y ago
        CEOs of largest companies don’t tend to spend much time near poor folks communities that suffer from violent mental health episodes. Executives even way further down forbs 500 have security staff.
      - 14u2c 2y ago
        Doesn't seems so surprising to me. Most school shootings are perpetrated by those involved in the school community in some way. Similar domestic violence, humans are a lot more likely to commit these types of crimes against those they know personally.
      - ModernMech 2y ago
        There's enough social pressure telling us the system works and is fair and just, and that violence is wrong and doesn't change anything. When you have an event like this, with the overwhelmingly positive reception by regular people, and within 24 hours BCBS rolls back a plan that has been years in the making to limit anesthesia during surgery, it shows two things: 1) murdering people who themselves murder people is not really socially unacceptable 2) direct action works in ways that the system does not Maybe that changes the status quo a little, who knows?
dredmorbius 2y ago
For those unfamiliar with the term: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_of_the_deed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_of_the_deed>
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matt123456789 2y ago

I can write that query for you: > select * from subscribers

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globalise83 2y ago

"When they took everything he had, they left him with nothing to lose"

behringer 2y ago

Good thing for the shooter, that's probably 10s of thousands of suspects in the area.

octokatt 2y ago

Adding the ProPublica article which talks about United Healthcare specifically denying claims for terminal diseases for greater profits. https://www.propublica.org/article/unitedhealth-healthcare-insurance-denial-ulcerative-colitis https://www.propublica.org/article/unitedhealth-healthcare-i... edit: We do not know the shooters motivations, nor do I presume to know. But wanted to add a link for context to the above comment to show context for the statement.

Teever 2y ago
I'm really surprised that we don't see violent action like this from terminal patients who have nothing to lose.
- LightHugger 2y ago
  People who are so sick often can't do very much, it's truly evil to scam people in that position. Maybe relatives though.
  - Teever 2y ago
    But enough people are given a terminal diagnosis from relatively minor symptoms that will lead to their death in 6 months. I think it's a really good open question as to why more unhinged Americans do school shootings than healthcare insurance executive shootings. I'd love to read a sociology paper on it.
    - sbalough 2y ago
      CEOs of largest companies don’t tend to spend much time near poor folks communities that suffer from violent mental health episodes. Executives even way further down forbs 500 have security staff.
    - 14u2c 2y ago
      Doesn't seems so surprising to me. Most school shootings are perpetrated by those involved in the school community in some way. Similar domestic violence, humans are a lot more likely to commit these types of crimes against those they know personally.
    - ModernMech 2y ago
      There's enough social pressure telling us the system works and is fair and just, and that violence is wrong and doesn't change anything. When you have an event like this, with the overwhelmingly positive reception by regular people, and within 24 hours BCBS rolls back a plan that has been years in the making to limit anesthesia during surgery, it shows two things: 1) murdering people who themselves murder people is not really socially unacceptable 2) direct action works in ways that the system does not Maybe that changes the status quo a little, who knows?

dredmorbius 2y ago

For those unfamiliar with the term: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_of_the_deed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_of_the_deed>

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