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Some notes: * It is illegal for a platform to provide children with a social media account, not for the child to create an account. Circumvention of this by th
by llui85 2y ago
Some notes:
* It is illegal for a platform to provide children with a social media account, not for the child to create an account. Circumvention of this by the child is not illegal.
* No grandfathering - all accounts under 16 once this takes effect (which won't be until this time next year at earliest) must be deactivated.
* Maximum fine (per instance?) is 50 million AUD (about 32 million USD)
* The legislation is vague on the technical details, although it does specifically mandate that platforms cannot use government-issued ID of any kind (including digital ID).
- guidedlight 2y agoLeisure Suit Larry was ahead of its time with its age verification system.
- elros 2y agoFor those of us who weren’t around at the time, could you d on what made it good? Thanks!
- rlv-dan 2y agoThey asked questions grown ups would know but likely not kids. I remember one questions about The Beatles for example. https://allowe.com/games/larry/tips-manuals/lsl1-age-quiz.html https://allowe.com/games/larry/tips-manuals/lsl1-age-quiz.ht... Edit: Added link
- dagw 2y agowhat made it good? Less good, more fun. To 'prove' that you were over 18 you had answer a series of multiple choice questions [1] about pop culture that most kids almost certainly wouldn't know. Pre internet, finding the answer was surprisingly hard without asking an adult. The main result was that 10 year old me knew a surprisingly large number of obscure facts of about US culture, like who Spiro Agnew was and that Ronald Reagan once starred in a movie with a monkey. Eventually we found out that you could press some magic key combination to skip the question all together. [1] https://allowe.com/games/larry/tips-manuals/lsl1-age-quiz.html https://allowe.com/games/larry/tips-manuals/lsl1-age-quiz.ht...
- johnisgood 2y agoLLM knows, thus the children know. Parents know, thus the children may easily know. It sounds fun but its practical value is questionable.
- LinuxBender 2y agoI don't have a horse in this race but in my opinion a more graceful way to deal with this is to freeze the account until the under-16 is over-16 so they don't lose their friend connections, history, etc... The under 16 should have time to add a comment saying how to contact them otherwise. Discord group, etc... There must be a reason to remove the account that I can not see.
- dyauspitr 2y agoIdeally they do lose all of that. That’s the root of the problem.
- aleph_minus_one 2y ago> Ideally they do lose all of that. That’s the root of the problem. Where is the problem with this? The problem rather is that the user did not create a private backup of the data that he wants to keep.
- kranner 2y agoPossible contact with pedophiles, groomers, etc. Once the child is over 16, they can add all their real-world friends again.
- LinuxBender 2y agoCould a possible solution there be to use the same language detection platforms used for detecting terrorist activity to also flag possible grooming for human moderator review? Or might that be too subjective for current language models leading to many false positives?
- Hizonner 2y agoAKA stupid paranoia.
- acdha 2y ago
- dyauspitr 2y agoHow do they plan on verifying age without using a government id?
- plagiarist 2y ago> The legislation is vague on the technical details, although it does specifically mandate that platforms cannot use government-issued ID of any kind (including digital ID). That's unexpectedly sane from a law like this. Hopefully they can figure out some zero-knowledge proof of age. (But then there's nothing stopping adults from creating and selling proof values to kids.)
- stephen_g 2y agoThat wasn't in the original bill and it was only amended to add that yesterday, because it wouldn't get past the Conservative (Liberal/National Party) whose votes they needed to ram it through Parliament with almost no scrutiny otherwise (the hastily drafted bill only having been introduced the Friday before the final sitting week of the year).
- plagiarist 2y agoThat's more of the sort of behavior one expects from legislators making broad surveillance apparatuses under guise of protecting children on the internet.
- triceratops 2y ago> But then there's nothing stopping adults from creating and selling proof values to kids That's also true for alcohol and tobacco.
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