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Very interesting comments and moderation discussion on this article.
by 100ideas 2y ago
Very interesting comments and moderation discussion on this article.
- h4ch1 2y agoDecent article, why the need for someone to pick up the pitchfork and emphasize their moral compass publicly like this? The comment and ensuing discussion is so pointless.
- no_wizard 2y agoWhy do we pretend that these things don’t matter? Why should we? Why in the norm to ignore these issues - there by perpetuating them because they face no consequences - rather than pointing them out? Justine did write openly on the web about their prejudices and never even apologized let alone showed in anyway evolution away from fascist leaning and prejudiced politics
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- lelanthran 2y agoI think I am missing a lot of context in this thread - I have no idea what any of the ancestral comments are talking about :-(
- no_wizard 2y agoIts in regards to the discussions taking place in this thread: https://lwn.net/Articles/998196/ https://lwn.net/Articles/998196/
- incrudible 2y agoI fail to see anything of substance here, seems to be some person with a chip on their shoulder. Apparently the word cosmopolitan is a derogatory dog whistle for Jewish person, but why would an antisemite name their own work after something they do not like?
- AlotOfReading 2y agoJust to be clear I'm not talking about Justine here and I consider the project to be well within the normal meaning of "cosmopolitan", but dogwhistle names are absolutely a thing antisemites do.
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y agoI did the same for a different political issue once, I just thought it was funny
- IncreasePosts 2y agoPlease tell me how it matters. What are you arguing here? Should no one use APE? Should people use APE but just feel bad every time they do? Should people use APE but never write about it for fear of aggrandizing the author?
- erik_seaberg 2y agoIt preserves HN and LWN as useful forums for purely technical discussions with high signal/noise, basically. From https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html : > Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That tramples curiosity.
- no_wizard 2y agoThe spirit of this and its practicality in every case isn’t the same thing at all. I don’t think a supposedly meritocratic community would want to associate with racist or prejudiced ideas that by their very nature fly in the face of this
- spacechild1 2y agoI didn't know about Justine's politics and I'm glad I do now. She is definitely not someone I would want to be associated with, unless she clearly distanced herself from these - in my opinion - deeply problematic and disturbing views. EDIT: That being said, I think it should still be possible to discuss her technical contributions in some form. It's basically the old question as to which extend you can separate the work from the author.
- Brian_K_White 2y agoI think this point was valid: "she doesn't "stick to the technology"" The tech is cool. But the person who made it kicks puppies. You don't care? Well I do.
- SanjayMehta 2y agoWerner von Braun comes to mind.
- yawpitch 2y agoWait, Werner von Braun kicked puppies?
- cbm-vic-20 2y agoSS-Sturmbannführer von Braun, at best, looked away from the labor situation at the Mittelwerk complex that was building his rockets.
- yawpitch 2y agoYeah, sorry, I know that particular fascist’s history, but apparently sarcasm doesn’t drip as heavily on the Internet as I thought.
- VyseofArcadia 2y ago