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It’s lucrative if your bar is 6 figures. No engineer that makes 7 figures calls themselves a ruby developer with the exception of DHH.
by bluedevilzn 2y ago
It’s lucrative if your bar is 6 figures.
No engineer that makes 7 figures calls themselves a ruby developer with the exception of DHH.
- qwertygnu 2y agoThere's no need to be shooting for 7 figures. Get a life
- bluedevilzn 2y agoWorking 40 hours and making 7 figures, gives you plenty of time to have a life. The key here is not to categorize as a “language developer”.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 2y agoIs 7 figures even realistic? I was under the impression that even a senior FAANG job was still just under $300k typically. Does anyone outside of a CTO/CIO make $1mil+?
- inerte 2y agoI know half a dozen of Senior Staff at FAANGs and they make I would say around 600k - 700k, more of course if stocks appreciate but that's hard to control. Consistent total compensation offers of $1mil+ is probably reserved for roles above these, sometimes called Principal or Distinguished. I would say the rate of having one of these in an org are like 1 for ~150 engineers.
- Xelynega 2y agoIsn't the average for software developers in the US ~100k(before taxes)? Assuming that high earners are offsetting that to the higher end, most people aren't making 6 figures, and the bar isn't which language they're programming in.
- duped 2y ago100k is on the lower end of junior salary
- Jtsummers 2y agohttps://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/software-developers.htm https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/... Junior salaries go down much lower than $100k.
- duped 2y agoThat doesn't match my experience on both ends of the hiring table. And forgive me if forwarding the BLS statistics to candidates doesn't get them to accept offers, because I know it wouldn't help me when I can get paid a lot more elsewhere.
- Jtsummers 2y ago> That doesn't match my experience on both ends of the hiring table. Congratulations, your experience is limited. The BLS stats represent the actual US salary data, not just your limited experience. If you want to make a claim about salaries in the US then look at data across the US and not just whatever is true within your limited bubble. > And forgive me if forwarding the BLS statistics to candidates doesn't get them to accept offers Did I ever even suggest such a thing?
- duped 2y agoI take the BLS numbers with a huge grain of salt, they are useful for identifying trends and not absolute facts on the ground. > Did I ever even suggest such a thing? My point is that the BLS doesn't set market rates or report on them.
- kstrauser 2y ago...in tech hubs. That's a pretty great living in most other places.
- sundaeofshock 2y agoHow many developers are out there making $1,000,000/year? Not in the hopes of hitting it big someday off of equity, but actual annual payoff? How many companies are out there paying $1,000,000/year for devs? How many devs who can command that kind salary are going to put up with bullshit coding challenges?
- bluedevilzn 2y agoMany thousands of Sr. Staff engineers+ and Sr. managers+ across FAANG. Google alone has 4000 directors all making a million at minimum. I have only worked at FAANG across my nearly decade long career. So, it’s a biased but very large sample.
- margalabargala 2y agoOkay, and let's say there's another 4000 Sr Staff+ engineers at Google making that much. That's 4% of the company. That's not unheard of, but it's certainly rare. $1 million+ is not a "typical salary", even at Google.
- alexawarrior4 2y agoIf you sample only from the 10,000 or so current Olympic athletes, you will draw similarly incorrect conclusions about the 8 billion planetary general population's athletic ability.
- marcellus23 2y agoNominated for most HN comment of the week.
- ryandrake 2y agoCome on! Everyone posting on HN makes $500K a year, has a vacation home in Tahoe and drives a brand new Ferrari. They think "L6 at Google in the Bay Area" is the median job level for the entire software industry.
- ForHackernews 2y agoIf this article and the comments here are to be believed, all you need to do to make L6 is grind on leetcode. Sounds like a good deal to me.
- dmvdoug 2y agoWhere’s n-gate.com when you need them, eh? :)
- marcellus23 2y agoMan I miss n-gate. Sometimes I go back and read the archives just for fun.
- bigstrat2003 2y agoBro this comment is so out of touch it's ridiculous. A 6 figure salary is lucrative. 7 figures is a crazy pipe dream that basically nobody will ever experience.