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I've ridden a few times and their prices seem close to Lyft. I would happily pay a premium for the service they are providing right now. New, clean cars that dr

I've ridden a few times and their prices seem close to Lyft. I would happily pay a premium for the service they are providing right now. New, clean cars that drive very smoothly and lower rates of accidents than an 'average' driver. No weird smells, distracted drivers, inexperienced drivers, etc. I think in a few more years with the amount of training their AI will have Waymo will be a truly incredible taxi service. It can only get better!

dmix 2y ago
> New, clean cars that drive very smoothly.. No weird smells. One concern I had is that once self-driving cars are widespread people might take advantage and treat them poorly with no human driver watching. Where a human would likely notice and deal with weird smells or things added by the past customer. Waymo-type service probably rely on reporting by passengers once the car already arrives, no? (I've never driven in one) People might be treating them nice today because Waymo is a fancy new service in Jaguars that people treat as a novelty. Once those e-taxi services are under aggressive economic demands I'm curious to see how it plays out.
- xnx 2y ago
  Waymo's have interior cameras on their vehicles. Any rider that leaves mess will get a strike and probably be banned for repeated infractions. You're right, some problems will only be noticed by the next rider.
  - PlunderBunny 2y ago
    Does Waymo's app give you the ability to cancel a trip before the trip start, with no penalty?
    - AStonesThrow 2y ago
      Cancellation fees may apply, especially if you do it late, or you're a no-show. If you purchase a GoPass, you'll receive a 10% discount on all rides, and 5 free cancellations.
    - xnx 2y ago
      Yes. I haven't had to do this myself, but I just read someones account of doing just that (because of delay, not mess).
  - dzhiurgis 2y ago
    Ahhh yes and your google account deleted for using hate speech while riding? Or will you ever be able to reach support once car takes you to wrong location?
    - xnx 2y ago
      The microphones inside the vehicle are only activated when you contact rider support. Maybe the cameras can do HAL-style lipreading...
- eskatonic 2y ago
  There have already been incidents of people getting frisky in the back of the robo-taxi. Cameras be damned, I suppose. https://sfstandard.com/2023/08/11/san-francisco-robotaxi-cruise-debauchery/ https://sfstandard.com/2023/08/11/san-francisco-robotaxi-cru...
  - fragmede 2y ago
    Ask Uber drivers. Other people in the car doesn't stop people, why would a camera?

dmix 2y ago

> New, clean cars that drive very smoothly.. No weird smells. One concern I had is that once self-driving cars are widespread people might take advantage and treat them poorly with no human driver watching. Where a human would likely notice and deal with weird smells or things added by the past customer. Waymo-type service probably rely on reporting by passengers once the car already arrives, no? (I've never driven in one) People might be treating them nice today because Waymo is a fancy new service in Jaguars that people treat as a novelty. Once those e-taxi services are under aggressive economic demands I'm curious to see how it plays out.

xnx 2y ago
Waymo's have interior cameras on their vehicles. Any rider that leaves mess will get a strike and probably be banned for repeated infractions. You're right, some problems will only be noticed by the next rider.
- PlunderBunny 2y ago
  Does Waymo's app give you the ability to cancel a trip before the trip start, with no penalty?
  - AStonesThrow 2y ago
    Cancellation fees may apply, especially if you do it late, or you're a no-show. If you purchase a GoPass, you'll receive a 10% discount on all rides, and 5 free cancellations.
  - xnx 2y ago
    Yes. I haven't had to do this myself, but I just read someones account of doing just that (because of delay, not mess).
- dzhiurgis 2y ago
  Ahhh yes and your google account deleted for using hate speech while riding? Or will you ever be able to reach support once car takes you to wrong location?
  - xnx 2y ago
    The microphones inside the vehicle are only activated when you contact rider support. Maybe the cameras can do HAL-style lipreading...
eskatonic 2y ago
There have already been incidents of people getting frisky in the back of the robo-taxi. Cameras be damned, I suppose. https://sfstandard.com/2023/08/11/san-francisco-robotaxi-cruise-debauchery/ https://sfstandard.com/2023/08/11/san-francisco-robotaxi-cru...
- fragmede 2y ago
  Ask Uber drivers. Other people in the car doesn't stop people, why would a camera?