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If that's true, how are they so much more reasonable in most developed countries with far greater government involvement still? Is the US government just unique

If that's true, how are they so much more reasonable in most developed countries with far greater government involvement still? Is the US government just uniquely bad at healthcare somehow? Why?

WalterBright 2y ago
It is true. Look at graphs of it. > Why? I don't know how other countries manage their health care systems, though I know that the British one is facing bankruptcy, and while health care was free in the Soviet Union patients had to pay for anesthetic for root canals, and bribery was the norm. Here's a link to what's wrong with the American system: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/09/how-american-health-care-killed-my-father/307617/ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/09/how-ame...
- tonyedgecombe 2y ago
  >British one is facing bankruptcy No it isn't.
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tightbookkeeper 2y ago
By reasonable do you mean 30-50% of your income for your entire life? Regardless of whether you use the services?
- Angostura 2y ago
  Where on earth are you getting that figure from?
  - tightbookkeeper 2y ago
    The uk tax receipts in 2024 was 342.2 billion. The nhs budget was 181 billion. Half of all government money appears to be going to healthcare.
    - immibis 2y ago
      What percentage of people's money is government money?
    - Angostura 2y ago
      You appear to be working on the assumption that 100% of the population's income goes to the UK exchequer
- Galaxeblaffer 2y ago
  No country in the world has you paying 30-50% og your income to health care, it's more like 15-18%
- rsynnott 2y ago
  … Where on earth are you getting that? As a high earner in a European country, about 8-9% of my income goes on the health service (though that includes some non-healthcare stuff). And I’m an extreme outlier; multinational salary and equity, single, no kids. For a single childless person on the average wage it’s about 2.5%.
  - tightbookkeeper 2y ago
    What’s your effective tax rate?

If that's true, how are they so much more reasonable in most developed countries with far greater government involvement still? Is the US government just uniquely bad at healthcare somehow? Why?

WalterBright 2y ago

It is true. Look at graphs of it. > Why? I don't know how other countries manage their health care systems, though I know that the British one is facing bankruptcy, and while health care was free in the Soviet Union patients had to pay for anesthetic for root canals, and bribery was the norm. Here's a link to what's wrong with the American system: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/09/how-american-health-care-killed-my-father/307617/ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/09/how-ame...

tonyedgecombe 2y ago
>British one is facing bankruptcy No it isn't.

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tightbookkeeper 2y ago

By reasonable do you mean 30-50% of your income for your entire life? Regardless of whether you use the services?

Angostura 2y ago
Where on earth are you getting that figure from?
- tightbookkeeper 2y ago
  The uk tax receipts in 2024 was 342.2 billion. The nhs budget was 181 billion. Half of all government money appears to be going to healthcare.
  - immibis 2y ago
    What percentage of people's money is government money?
  - Angostura 2y ago
    You appear to be working on the assumption that 100% of the population's income goes to the UK exchequer
Galaxeblaffer 2y ago
No country in the world has you paying 30-50% og your income to health care, it's more like 15-18%
rsynnott 2y ago
… Where on earth are you getting that? As a high earner in a European country, about 8-9% of my income goes on the health service (though that includes some non-healthcare stuff). And I’m an extreme outlier; multinational salary and equity, single, no kids. For a single childless person on the average wage it’s about 2.5%.
- tightbookkeeper 2y ago
  What’s your effective tax rate?