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Hi, Pavel Zhovner here, Flipper Devices CEO. Yes it's our product, but it's not ready for announcement yet, so we keep it secret. Right now, we are working on

Hi, Pavel Zhovner here, Flipper Devices CEO. Yes it's our product, but it's not ready for announcement yet, so we keep it secret. Right now, we are working on implementing Matter smart home protocol and will slightly change the product concept.

Y_Y 2y ago
Hi Pavel Zhovner. I'm afraid you're not doing a very good job of keeping it secret. What are the odds of a kit version woth a lower pricetag and some assembly required?
- diggan 2y ago
  > What are the odds of a kit version woth a lower pricetag and some assembly required? Or even better, a version that ships with everything besides "the brain" and allows us to use our Flipper Zero as the brain :) Looking at the old blog articles about the project, it seems it got started with using Flipper Zero as the brain, so maybe it's not that far-fetched.
- adamyormark 2y ago
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therein 2y ago
Looks nice. We should have known from the way it looks that it is either you guys or Teenage Engineering.
dr_kiszonka 2y ago
It looks gorgeous, especially the hardware. I think the typeface on the hardware and the retro busy text could be further refined, but it is very very cool overall.
- dr_kiszonka 2y ago
  (Looking at the renders, there are at least four different fonts on the device. It would probably look better if you used fewer.)
poincaredisk 2y ago
Side note to people reading this: in general, when suspecting a scam, don't blindly trust anyone who says "I'm ... and I confirm this is OK". This may be the same very person who you're suspecting of original scam ;). Not a theory, I have cases looks this every other week in my dayjob. In this case I believe the post is legit.
- creatonez 2y ago
  It might ring better for the cypherpunks here that zhovner has verified their HN account ownership with their keybase GPG key, which can only be done by editing an account's profile description to include a specific signature (or by defacing HN / breaching the account). And the same key is also used to prove ownership of their Github account and website.
  - Corrado 2y ago
    Ahh... I wish Keybase had taken off and not been gobbled up by Zoom. It had so much promise with things like this.
    - vdfs 2y ago
      Hi, I am the CEO of Keybase and i can assure you we are working on features that will make this a reality
      - velcrovan 2y ago
        LOL
- IshKebab 2y ago
  More important note to people reading this: use your brain. Is it likely that a scammer will create an extremely professional website and product, and then their scam is that ride the coat tails of another brand and try to keep that scam up with Hacker News comments? (I think lots of HN people have issues with reality so just in case the answer is: absolutely not.)
parhamn 2y ago
Put a CO2 + temp/humidity sensor in there and it's a no-brainer. The sensors could be nice to hack on too.
- wingworks 2y ago
  Also add PM (Particulate Matter) and VOC.
  - deleted 2y ago
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- mightysashiman 2y ago
  hell yes!
- mxfh 2y ago
  with matter support that could just well integrate with the rest of home automation. There is a lack of devices with big nice dials for that. +1 CO2/PM2.5
  - djbusby 2y ago
    Maybe aranet4 device as add-on? It does BTLE.
- dylan604 2y ago
  so now we're talking a $500 device? they're already asking ~$200 for a feature stop watch
  - ssl-3 2y ago
    Why stop at a $500 device? I think it should also have NVMe and SFF-8644 for external disk shelves. At least 6x 10GbE, with 4 on SFPs and 2 on copper. A GPU with excellent hardware transcoding, and slotted VRAM for that local LLM fun. Plus an 8k projector for movie nights at the office. And a pony; every single one of these fucking kitchen timers must also come with a pony.
adtac 2y ago
Is there any message from the Flipper Zero people that this is actually their CEO? :)
- diggan 2y ago
  No need, the user profile (cryptographically) links to their keybase profiles which corroborates the identity. The future is here! :)
  - roland35 2y ago
    And... How do we know the key base profile is correct?
    - diggan 2y ago
      Here is how Keybase works: https://book.keybase.io/docs/server https://book.keybase.io/docs/server Then take a look at the HN profile, which leads you to the Keybase profile.
      - bloopernova 2y ago
        I really wish keybase had taken off. I should have realized it was going to fail once they started adding the cryptocurrency wallet.
        diggan 2y ago
        Keyoxide seems OK as an alternative: https://keyoxide.org/aspe:keyoxide.org:Q6B7ZBQITV7IE2RG4EMVKWT4VI https://keyoxide.org/aspe:keyoxide.org:Q6B7ZBQITV7IE2RG4EMVK... Doesn't have any of the social "features".
  - rtpg 2y ago
    Funnily, the way I used to check Keybase profiles is to check Twitter because a blue checkmark there was usually a good indication of them being "the famous person" but thanks to Twitter Blue that feature is no longer usable. I understand Keybase allows you to link up a bunch of accounts, but it doesn't prevent you from making all of those accounts say you are the CEO/CTO of some company unfortunately.
m463 2y ago
unrelated: how come you can't buy your device on amazon?
hiisukun 2y ago
I'd love for this thing to be feature-flexible enough to use it for the exact opposite: running TV/screen/videogame timer for the kids! Looks great, love the dial/switch big button combo, and the opportunity to buy something attractive that's a "hackable screen with buttons" is very high for me. Another likely use is to be a controller for audiobooks or music in our rumpus if I ever get a hold of one. Again, drivable by kids and oldies who visit is a huge plus.
novok 2y ago
A version of this that would be useful for WFH or private offices is an 'on air' device that you could mount outside your office door, which means it's not connected to your computer and could potentially run on a battery for a week+ or run on usb power directly. People want to come in sometimes to access a closet, but they don't know if your in a meeting, so it would also need to detect if your in a meeting, and the microphone being on or off is not enough because people often mute themselves. Calendar access is also not enough because sometimes you start a meeting without a calendar thingy, and also knowing if your 'on air' with an open door can tell them if they have to be worried if they could be on camera if they walk by the door. It could be a very simple LED, it just needs a good agent on your desktop. Also a 'yellow light' for an upcoming meeting in a couple minutes (so this is where calendar access is useful) or an orange light for camera & microphone off.
- mynameisvlad 2y ago
  It seems like that's already supported considering there's mobile apps: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flipperdevices.busybar https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flipperdev... They're referenced on the second picture on the site, with the backside of the device that shows you how to control it.
itomato 2y ago
This is better and more useful than the FlipperOne, I think.

Y_Y 2y ago

Hi Pavel Zhovner. I'm afraid you're not doing a very good job of keeping it secret. What are the odds of a kit version woth a lower pricetag and some assembly required?

diggan 2y ago
> What are the odds of a kit version woth a lower pricetag and some assembly required? Or even better, a version that ships with everything besides "the brain" and allows us to use our Flipper Zero as the brain :) Looking at the old blog articles about the project, it seems it got started with using Flipper Zero as the brain, so maybe it's not that far-fetched.
adamyormark 2y ago
[flagged]

therein 2y ago

Looks nice. We should have known from the way it looks that it is either you guys or Teenage Engineering.

dr_kiszonka 2y ago

It looks gorgeous, especially the hardware. I think the typeface on the hardware and the retro busy text could be further refined, but it is very very cool overall.

dr_kiszonka 2y ago
(Looking at the renders, there are at least four different fonts on the device. It would probably look better if you used fewer.)

poincaredisk 2y ago

Side note to people reading this: in general, when suspecting a scam, don't blindly trust anyone who says "I'm ... and I confirm this is OK". This may be the same very person who you're suspecting of original scam ;). Not a theory, I have cases looks this every other week in my dayjob. In this case I believe the post is legit.

creatonez 2y ago
It might ring better for the cypherpunks here that zhovner has verified their HN account ownership with their keybase GPG key, which can only be done by editing an account's profile description to include a specific signature (or by defacing HN / breaching the account). And the same key is also used to prove ownership of their Github account and website.
- Corrado 2y ago
  Ahh... I wish Keybase had taken off and not been gobbled up by Zoom. It had so much promise with things like this.
  - vdfs 2y ago
    Hi, I am the CEO of Keybase and i can assure you we are working on features that will make this a reality
    - velcrovan 2y ago
      LOL
IshKebab 2y ago
More important note to people reading this: use your brain. Is it likely that a scammer will create an extremely professional website and product, and then their scam is that ride the coat tails of another brand and try to keep that scam up with Hacker News comments? (I think lots of HN people have issues with reality so just in case the answer is: absolutely not.)

parhamn 2y ago

Put a CO2 + temp/humidity sensor in there and it's a no-brainer. The sensors could be nice to hack on too.

wingworks 2y ago
Also add PM (Particulate Matter) and VOC.
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]
mightysashiman 2y ago
hell yes!
mxfh 2y ago
with matter support that could just well integrate with the rest of home automation. There is a lack of devices with big nice dials for that. +1 CO2/PM2.5
- djbusby 2y ago
  Maybe aranet4 device as add-on? It does BTLE.
dylan604 2y ago
so now we're talking a $500 device? they're already asking ~$200 for a feature stop watch
- ssl-3 2y ago
  Why stop at a $500 device? I think it should also have NVMe and SFF-8644 for external disk shelves. At least 6x 10GbE, with 4 on SFPs and 2 on copper. A GPU with excellent hardware transcoding, and slotted VRAM for that local LLM fun. Plus an 8k projector for movie nights at the office. And a pony; every single one of these fucking kitchen timers must also come with a pony.

adtac 2y ago

Is there any message from the Flipper Zero people that this is actually their CEO? :)

diggan 2y ago
No need, the user profile (cryptographically) links to their keybase profiles which corroborates the identity. The future is here! :)
- roland35 2y ago
  And... How do we know the key base profile is correct?
  - diggan 2y ago
    Here is how Keybase works: https://book.keybase.io/docs/server https://book.keybase.io/docs/server Then take a look at the HN profile, which leads you to the Keybase profile.
    - bloopernova 2y ago
      I really wish keybase had taken off. I should have realized it was going to fail once they started adding the cryptocurrency wallet.
      - diggan 2y ago
        Keyoxide seems OK as an alternative: https://keyoxide.org/aspe:keyoxide.org:Q6B7ZBQITV7IE2RG4EMVKWT4VI https://keyoxide.org/aspe:keyoxide.org:Q6B7ZBQITV7IE2RG4EMVK... Doesn't have any of the social "features".
- rtpg 2y ago
  Funnily, the way I used to check Keybase profiles is to check Twitter because a blue checkmark there was usually a good indication of them being "the famous person" but thanks to Twitter Blue that feature is no longer usable. I understand Keybase allows you to link up a bunch of accounts, but it doesn't prevent you from making all of those accounts say you are the CEO/CTO of some company unfortunately.

m463 2y ago

unrelated: how come you can't buy your device on amazon?

hiisukun 2y ago

I'd love for this thing to be feature-flexible enough to use it for the exact opposite: running TV/screen/videogame timer for the kids! Looks great, love the dial/switch big button combo, and the opportunity to buy something attractive that's a "hackable screen with buttons" is very high for me. Another likely use is to be a controller for audiobooks or music in our rumpus if I ever get a hold of one. Again, drivable by kids and oldies who visit is a huge plus.

novok 2y ago

A version of this that would be useful for WFH or private offices is an 'on air' device that you could mount outside your office door, which means it's not connected to your computer and could potentially run on a battery for a week+ or run on usb power directly. People want to come in sometimes to access a closet, but they don't know if your in a meeting, so it would also need to detect if your in a meeting, and the microphone being on or off is not enough because people often mute themselves. Calendar access is also not enough because sometimes you start a meeting without a calendar thingy, and also knowing if your 'on air' with an open door can tell them if they have to be worried if they could be on camera if they walk by the door. It could be a very simple LED, it just needs a good agent on your desktop. Also a 'yellow light' for an upcoming meeting in a couple minutes (so this is where calendar access is useful) or an orange light for camera & microphone off.

mynameisvlad 2y ago
It seems like that's already supported considering there's mobile apps: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flipperdevices.busybar https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flipperdev... They're referenced on the second picture on the site, with the backside of the device that shows you how to control it.

itomato 2y ago

This is better and more useful than the FlipperOne, I think.