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Tesla's Robotaxi event still not started after 40 minutes [video]
- cs702 2y agoI can only imagine the kind of last-minute drama the Robotaxi team is going through, behind the scenes. Hopefully they will pull through and get started soon enough.
- minwcnt5 2y agoWill their robotaxi team even have jobs tomorrow? The demo is over, they delivered their project.
- oxqbldpxo 2y agoJump Elon jump!!!
- zzleeper 2y agoLol those cyclists surely looked terrified
- pcbro141 2y agoWaymo already beat Tesla to Full Self Driving. I use Waymo frequently in SF and it's great. It makes this Tesla robotaxi with an undefined release date not very interesting.
- 0max 2y agoBased on some of the viral videos out of SF lately, I think we need Delamain from Cyberpunk 2077 more than Waymo at this point. I've been in a Waymo with other drivers trying to test its intelligence (trying to cut into the Waymo's lane with the signal on while right in the blind spot) and it's not fun.
- Animats 2y agoThe event has started. They have some Teslas driving slowly around the Warner Brothers lot with no people in them. Musk is talking. The closed captions are running ahead of the talking.
- noncoml 2y agoMy simple mind can't understand what's the advantage of having a two seater vs four or five seater. Any insights?
- ec109685 2y agoThey can use “we’re working on the chassis” as an excuse for why it’s not ready yet.
- silok 2y agoWith autonomy you do not need a one-fit-all vehicle that support many different use cases. Instead you have access to a fleet of specialized vehicles that are optimized for different tasks. Eg many trips might still be with only one or two passangers, and then a small two seater makes a lot of sense. If you need larger capacity you simple order a ride from a suitable vehicle class.
- BurningFrog 2y agoThat vast majority of car trips is for one person. Most of the others are for two. So building it without dead weight that will almost never be used makes sense. If you're a bigger party, there will probably be bigger robotaxis to summon. Or take two cars.
- Animats 2y ago"We expect the cost to be below $30,000."
- Ankaios 2y agoThey're currently discussing how difficult it was to design a credit card reader for the Robotaxi that would reliably fail whenever it detects cash in the passenger's wallet.
- paulryanrogers 2y agoIs this a joke? Do they prefer the taxis get paid in cash?
- mgiampapa 2y agoEvery Taxi driver in NYC has a credit card machine that is broken unless you show them you don't have cash.
- natroniks 2y agoThis is complete and utter bullshit. Whatever your personal experience, I have ridden taxis hundreds of times over the course of 2 decades and not once has a cab demanded I pay cash. I exclusively used credit cards and have been since roughly 2009
- Freedom2 2y agoI was in NYC last month and paid fine with card, and the driver clearly saw cash in my wallet?
- Grazester 2y agoI dont know how true it is now but I can tell you once upon a time they preferred cash and yes their machine frequently seemed to be broken or had some issue. My experiences were a long time ago before the rise of Uber and Lyft
- renegade-otter 2y agoI take cabs in NYC often and that never happens.
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- Animats 2y agoTeslas "fully autonomous in Texas and California next year" using Model 3 and Model Y. Cybercab before 2027.
- pcbro141 2y agoHe's been promising "full self driving in a few months to a couple years" since 2015. Reddit comment with his predictions: https://old.reddit.com/r/SelfDrivingCars/comments/n6nsmt/elons_tweet_does_not_match_engineering_reality/gx8kure/ https://old.reddit.com/r/SelfDrivingCars/comments/n6nsmt/elo...
- mentalfist 2y agoHere is an extended timeline of the lies https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/ https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/
- porphyra 2y agoIt was a medical emergency. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1844567949144883345 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1844567949144883345
- reallymental 2y agoWhat a bizzare world we live in. He's promising some version of the thing he did in 2016 [0], he's promising a lower than $30k price point, also the famous "unsupervised full self driving" (how many more adjectives does one need for autonomous vehicles?). Perhaps he's made another deal with the board for a better $100B pay package so he can lie to the shareholders (who'll eat it up) and he'll dump subpar products onto these people who are heralding him as another "genius" or whatever. He's just another run-of-the-mill, out of touch conman at this point. He was great, but he didn't hold onto his own greatness. edit: Something about a park ride?! ... Jesus. [0] - https://qz.com/elon-musk-tesla-robotaxi-timeline-1851664786#:~:text=Elon%20Musk%20has%20been%20promising,for%20more%20than%20five%20years&text=We%20may%20earn%20a%20commission%20from%20links%20on%20this%20page.&text=Elon%20Musk%20first%20promised%20that,first%20popped%20into%20his%20head https://qz.com/elon-musk-tesla-robotaxi-timeline-1851664786#....
- reallymental 2y agoWell he's now got his robots dancing. It's all a joke people, let's wrap it up.
- davidbarker 2y agoIt disappoints me when otherwise intelligent people take him for his word at this point. Even ignoring his descent into political madness and conspiracy, he's simply not trustworthy. Fool me once, shame on Elon. Fool me 194 times, shame on me.
- muglug 2y agoHe talks about the tyranny of parking lots, but this is a solved problem! The whole presentation is an exercise in steadfastly not talking about public transportation.
- bryanlarsen 2y agoThey just announced a bus.
- marcusverus 2y agoHe actually did address public transportation, saying that fully autonomous, on demand taxis will be the equivalent of individualized public transportation. He's right. Why would I want to stand outside in the elements for 20 minutes waiting for a bus when I could hail an autonomous taxi and be on my way? "Just ride a bus" is the "640K ought to be enough for anybody" of the current cycle.
- tsimionescu 2y agoA bus can transport 100+ people while taking up about the same road space as two or maybe three of these. Those could transport 4 or maybe 6 people. I don't think more needs to be said about the chances of this replacing actual public transport.
- zaroth 2y agoThe bus can only transport 100 people because it forces everyone to take the same route, regardless of where they are actually headed. This is not merely inconvenient, but a delusional take on the future of mobility. You cannot eat on the bus. You cannot bring your grocery bags on the bus. You cannot bring your pets on the bus. Also, there’s the fact you have to sit with (and smell) 99 other people. Some of them you may find are mentally unstable shitbags that will possibly assault you. No thanks.
- tsimionescu 2y agoSure, there are inconveniences, but it is literally impossible to run a huge city any other way (I mean, other than fixed route large vehicle cramped public transport, be it busses, trains, trams etc). It is geometrically impossible to fit 20 million people on roads in cars during 1-3 hours when businesses start and end. Drivers make no difference, the problem is the form factor. This is not a technological problem, not even a physical problem, it's a problem of basic math.
- Animats 2y agoInductive charging. Robotaxi does not need to plug in. Pictures of robotic car interior cleaning, but no mention of that.
- Animats 2y agoThere's a 20 person bus version.
- Animats 2y agoWalking humanoid robots. Also videos of more humanoid robots that move better than the ones shown live.
- Animats 2y agoPresentation is over. They're having a party. Overall, this demo looks a lot like the self driving vehicles at Guangzhou Bio Island. They have slow self-driving buses and taxis in a somewhat controlled environment.[1] That sort of thing has been working for about five years now. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3sCm1GGC5I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3sCm1GGC5I
- Teknomancer 2y agoAfter seeing the Chinese company Unitree tease this https://youtu.be/GzX1qOIO1bE https://youtu.be/GzX1qOIO1bE, Optimus seems very unarticulated and clunky. And Unitree claim it would be a bit more than half the projected cost of the Tesla offering. Time will tell. My bets right now are not on Elon leading a Tesla supremacy in anything in the future—and that is unfortunate. I wish an American company could pull it off.
- sidcool 2y agoThat looks like CGI. Pretty good one, but CGI.
- bfeynman 2y agoit's not cgi... you can already buy their dog ones and they bring these around to shows.
- Teknomancer 2y agoAnything is possible. But I doubt it's CGI.