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It can be registered in Europe, many countries allow individual car import from the US. I have seen a few around; not on public streets (car shows), but with lo

It can be registered in Europe, many countries allow individual car import from the US. I have seen a few around; not on public streets (car shows), but with local plates. You also won't have any issue getting third-party damage insurance in Europe, as the insurance companies are required to make an offer.

eqvinox 2y ago
I'm aware of single/custom car special procedures, but last I checked the Cybertruck can't get a type approval in any EU country. Individual registering them vs. not being able to register them doesn't really make a difference for the argument, does it? Honestly I might even have bought a nice electric truck, but that weird box on wheels just ain't it :(
- SoftTalker 2y ago
  I actually would consider an EV pickup truck. My uses for a truck are almost entirely local, so range concerns would be much less. EVs are still too expensive for me however. For now when I need to haul something that won't fit in my car, I rent a trailer.
- throw49sjwo1 2y ago
  Where do you check if it can get a type approval? I don't think that's something you can easily determine just by looking at it and saying "yeah too big, doesn't look right, not european enough". There are very weird things with type approvals in Europe. Don't mistake it for some super rational land. Note that even mega-trucks can be street legal in Europe, and most traditional American big pickups like Dodge RAM are type approved - why not a Cybertruck then? Europe will type approve anything that proves it's safe and follows basic conventions. That will most likely include the Cybertruck, as the question really isn't "is this car a good idea?" - even bad products that nobody needs or wants get type approved, and Cybertruck really will not be the worst thing that happened to European roads. Tesla knows very well how to get a US car type approved in EU with minimal adjustments. It was very curious to watch with previous models. They are quick, too.
  - tpm 2y ago
    Well you can have a look at the rules and see for yourself, they are not that weird but very complicated. But I assume that if it would be possible, Tesla would try to get it approved. > most of the traditional American big pickups like Dodge RAM are type approved - why not a Cybertruck then? I'd guess pedestrian safety would be one of the main issues.
    - throw49sjwo1 2y ago
      I know the rules very well, special cars are kind of my hobby. There is nothing that couldn't be minimally adjusted to meet European regulations. Pedestrian safety is definitely not an issue. There are much more unsafe vehicles than Cybertruck in that regard. Every model Tesla introduced was US only first few years. People individually imported the first hundreds of cars during these initial years. Tesla then introduced an European version of the car with technically minimal adjustments.
      - eqvinox 2y ago
        > Pedestrian safety is definitely not an issue. There are much more unsafe vehicles than Cybertruck in that regard. Purely out of curiosity — can you name one or two such vehicles? I'm really interested how they are so unsafe, or rather, which byzantine (non-?)regulation deems them so unsafe :D
        throw49sjwo1 2y ago
        My point is that there is no such regulation. But anything that used to be military and sold to civilian usage would qualify. Very common in Eastern Europe, though most of the vehicles of the Cold War have rusted by now.
        eqvinox 2y ago
        > My point is that there is no such regulation. Yeah, Sorry, I worded that poorly. Can you give an example of a car that is more unsafe (by some generic reasoning) than the Cybertruck, but still type approved?
- EasyMark 2y ago
  Rivian’s are kind of nice, but I don’t know if they will survive as a company. Ford EV trucks are fine as well, I’ve driven both. I personally own a hybrid plug-in SUV which lets me go as far as I like on vacation while also letting me be pure EV for all my local driving which is probably 90% of it and I really don’t drive that much tbh

eqvinox 2y ago

I'm aware of single/custom car special procedures, but last I checked the Cybertruck can't get a type approval in any EU country. Individual registering them vs. not being able to register them doesn't really make a difference for the argument, does it? Honestly I might even have bought a nice electric truck, but that weird box on wheels just ain't it :(

SoftTalker 2y ago
I actually would consider an EV pickup truck. My uses for a truck are almost entirely local, so range concerns would be much less. EVs are still too expensive for me however. For now when I need to haul something that won't fit in my car, I rent a trailer.
throw49sjwo1 2y ago
Where do you check if it can get a type approval? I don't think that's something you can easily determine just by looking at it and saying "yeah too big, doesn't look right, not european enough". There are very weird things with type approvals in Europe. Don't mistake it for some super rational land. Note that even mega-trucks can be street legal in Europe, and most traditional American big pickups like Dodge RAM are type approved - why not a Cybertruck then? Europe will type approve anything that proves it's safe and follows basic conventions. That will most likely include the Cybertruck, as the question really isn't "is this car a good idea?" - even bad products that nobody needs or wants get type approved, and Cybertruck really will not be the worst thing that happened to European roads. Tesla knows very well how to get a US car type approved in EU with minimal adjustments. It was very curious to watch with previous models. They are quick, too.
- tpm 2y ago
  Well you can have a look at the rules and see for yourself, they are not that weird but very complicated. But I assume that if it would be possible, Tesla would try to get it approved. > most of the traditional American big pickups like Dodge RAM are type approved - why not a Cybertruck then? I'd guess pedestrian safety would be one of the main issues.
  - throw49sjwo1 2y ago
    I know the rules very well, special cars are kind of my hobby. There is nothing that couldn't be minimally adjusted to meet European regulations. Pedestrian safety is definitely not an issue. There are much more unsafe vehicles than Cybertruck in that regard. Every model Tesla introduced was US only first few years. People individually imported the first hundreds of cars during these initial years. Tesla then introduced an European version of the car with technically minimal adjustments.
    - eqvinox 2y ago
      > Pedestrian safety is definitely not an issue. There are much more unsafe vehicles than Cybertruck in that regard. Purely out of curiosity — can you name one or two such vehicles? I'm really interested how they are so unsafe, or rather, which byzantine (non-?)regulation deems them so unsafe :D
      - throw49sjwo1 2y ago
        My point is that there is no such regulation. But anything that used to be military and sold to civilian usage would qualify. Very common in Eastern Europe, though most of the vehicles of the Cold War have rusted by now.
        eqvinox 2y ago
        > My point is that there is no such regulation. Yeah, Sorry, I worded that poorly. Can you give an example of a car that is more unsafe (by some generic reasoning) than the Cybertruck, but still type approved?
EasyMark 2y ago
Rivian’s are kind of nice, but I don’t know if they will survive as a company. Ford EV trucks are fine as well, I’ve driven both. I personally own a hybrid plug-in SUV which lets me go as far as I like on vacation while also letting me be pure EV for all my local driving which is probably 90% of it and I really don’t drive that much tbh