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these samplers used to cost $3000-5000 if you are concerned about $200 for a replacement kit you should probably sell them to someone else

by b20000 2y ago

mistyvales 2y ago
They absolutely do not cost that much. These are rackmount and cost between $200-400 depending.
- yojo 2y ago
  I disagree with the way he made his point, but the facts look right. The S300XL apparently retailed for £1799.[1] that would have been ~$2800 USD at the time, or north of $5k in today’s dollars. 1: https://web.archive.org/web/20150406014725/http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1995_articles/dec95/akais3000xl.html https://web.archive.org/web/20150406014725/http://www.soundo...
  - derriz 2y ago
    Yeah but you can pick one up for a fraction of that these days - here's one for €350[0] and given the typical difference between Europe and the US for used gear, you could probably pick one up for under $300 in the US. [0] https://reverb.com/item/74573558-akai-s3000-xl https://reverb.com/item/74573558-akai-s3000-xl
    - brockrockman 2y ago
      They are cheap to find -- on Yahoo Auctions Japan I got an s3000xl for ~$80 since the 8-out works in the MPC2k/xl and go for as much as ~$400 alone. But that doesn't mean anything about the cost to repair, upgrade, or in the case of LCD replacement, modernize. The memory, flash, effects, and expansion cards are highly sought after, and you're competing with bigger budget established producers.
      - derriz 2y ago
        I don't understand your point, to be honest. My point was that it reasonable to be reluctant to spend $200 to $250 to replace a small component of a device that is only worth $300. This was in response to someone who claimed the OP should just sell it if he didn't want to spend $200 to fix it - because it originally cost $3000-$5000.
        mistyvales 2y ago
        https://www.ebay.com/itm/255438098835 https://www.ebay.com/itm/255438098835 this one is $160 roughly.. and it's worth it if you really like the sound and want to partially modernize. I got my S3000XL for $200, got the screen for another $160, DIMMs to max memory was only $20. The Zulu SCSI was $80.. So yeah, I did put a bunch into it but all that's worth it to me. I agree that using original MSRP is absurd though. The S3000XL is a later model from them and can be found for cheap all over the place - they made a bunch of them. S1100 series are sought after but those are usually close to $1k in excellent condition, and getting maxed out memory could cost $3-400. S950 sell for over $1k usually as well.
        b20000 2y ago
        why do you think a subassembly cannot cost $250 if you picked up the device for $300? just go buy another device then? what is your point? you want to buy a porsche for 20k and then you are surprised that a new gearbox is 30k???
        derriz 2y ago
        Your tone is overly aggressive. And I don't know how I can be clearer than in the comment you are replying to: "My point was that it reasonable to be reluctant to spend $200 to $250 to replace a small component of a device that is only worth $300." Which part of this sentence is unclear? Your Porshe analogy is not appropriate. If a Porsche with a working gearbox is worth 35k, then yes, I'd be reluctant to spend 30k on a gearbox alone.
        2y ago
    - yojo 2y ago
      I think you are talking past each other. The grandparent’s point was that these things retailed for lots of money when new, so they make the claim that the relatively small $250 LCD repair is reasonable. I don’t agree that this is a logical conclusion to draw - anchoring on a 30 year old sale price seems self-evidently invalid. All I was pointing out is these things did in fact retail for $X,000, regardless of the current value.

these samplers used to cost $3000-5000 if you are concerned about $200 for a replacement kit you should probably sell them to someone else

by b20000 2y ago

these samplers used to cost $3000-5000 if you are concerned about $200 for a replacement kit you should probably sell them to someone else

mistyvales 2y ago

They absolutely do not cost that much. These are rackmount and cost between $200-400 depending.

yojo 2y ago
I disagree with the way he made his point, but the facts look right. The S300XL apparently retailed for £1799.[1] that would have been ~$2800 USD at the time, or north of $5k in today’s dollars. 1: https://web.archive.org/web/20150406014725/http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1995_articles/dec95/akais3000xl.html https://web.archive.org/web/20150406014725/http://www.soundo...
- derriz 2y ago
  Yeah but you can pick one up for a fraction of that these days - here's one for €350[0] and given the typical difference between Europe and the US for used gear, you could probably pick one up for under $300 in the US. [0] https://reverb.com/item/74573558-akai-s3000-xl https://reverb.com/item/74573558-akai-s3000-xl
  - brockrockman 2y ago
    They are cheap to find -- on Yahoo Auctions Japan I got an s3000xl for ~$80 since the 8-out works in the MPC2k/xl and go for as much as ~$400 alone. But that doesn't mean anything about the cost to repair, upgrade, or in the case of LCD replacement, modernize. The memory, flash, effects, and expansion cards are highly sought after, and you're competing with bigger budget established producers.
    - derriz 2y ago
      I don't understand your point, to be honest. My point was that it reasonable to be reluctant to spend $200 to $250 to replace a small component of a device that is only worth $300. This was in response to someone who claimed the OP should just sell it if he didn't want to spend $200 to fix it - because it originally cost $3000-$5000.
      - mistyvales 2y ago
        https://www.ebay.com/itm/255438098835 https://www.ebay.com/itm/255438098835 this one is $160 roughly.. and it's worth it if you really like the sound and want to partially modernize. I got my S3000XL for $200, got the screen for another $160, DIMMs to max memory was only $20. The Zulu SCSI was $80.. So yeah, I did put a bunch into it but all that's worth it to me. I agree that using original MSRP is absurd though. The S3000XL is a later model from them and can be found for cheap all over the place - they made a bunch of them. S1100 series are sought after but those are usually close to $1k in excellent condition, and getting maxed out memory could cost $3-400. S950 sell for over $1k usually as well.
      - b20000 2y ago
        why do you think a subassembly cannot cost $250 if you picked up the device for $300? just go buy another device then? what is your point? you want to buy a porsche for 20k and then you are surprised that a new gearbox is 30k???
        derriz 2y ago
        Your tone is overly aggressive. And I don't know how I can be clearer than in the comment you are replying to: "My point was that it reasonable to be reluctant to spend $200 to $250 to replace a small component of a device that is only worth $300." Which part of this sentence is unclear? Your Porshe analogy is not appropriate. If a Porsche with a working gearbox is worth 35k, then yes, I'd be reluctant to spend 30k on a gearbox alone.
        2y ago
  - yojo 2y ago
    I think you are talking past each other. The grandparent’s point was that these things retailed for lots of money when new, so they make the claim that the relatively small $250 LCD repair is reasonable. I don’t agree that this is a logical conclusion to draw - anchoring on a 30 year old sale price seems self-evidently invalid. All I was pointing out is these things did in fact retail for $X,000, regardless of the current value.