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Not even. The only device still in production using the A16 is the iPhone 15 (and plus if you consider that a different model).
by bydo 2y ago
Not even. The only device still in production using the A16 is the iPhone 15 (and plus if you consider that a different model).
- runjake 2y agoIt seems likely the new iPhone SE will be released in the next 12 months, and if so, and it follows past patterns, it'll roughly use the iPhone 14 hardware and thus, the A16.
- dgacmu 2y agoAnd the next base model ipad may use it (or the older a15). iPad is currently using a14.
- whynotminot 2y agoThe SE has always used the latest chip. No chance in hell Apple releases any new phones — even SEs — that can’t do Apple Intelligence.
- ravetcofx 2y agoThe A16 could certainly run the AI with enough RAM
- whynotminot 2y agoMaybe, perhaps. Idk I don’t work at Apple. I’m just telling you that if it follows past SE pattern it’ll be an A18. And they won’t skimp on the RAM because Apple Intelligence is clearly going to be rolled out across their entire product line. 2 + 2 = A18 with 8GB of RAM
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- Reason077 2y agoAccording to Apple, the upcoming “Apple Intelligence” features are exclusive to devices with A17 Pro, A18, or M-series chips.
- newaccount74 2y agoApple Intelligence is a bunch of new tech they haven't really released yet. In typical Apple fashion, they start slow, and will improve it year over year. Apple rarely backports new tech to older devices. It probably could run on the older chips, but it doesn't look like Apple isn't going for the widest possible rollout. They are launching it for the newest chips only, and are not wasting time porting it to old chips, when they don't even know yet how it's going to scale. So right now they are focussing on English speaking markets and newest devices only. They are skating to where the puck is going to be, and in a few years no-one will care if their tech runs on the A16 or not. Right now they are focussing on getting this thing launched, and backward compatibility would only slow them down. And its a selling point to get people to buy new iPhones, so it's win/win for Apple.
- quitit 2y agoWhile I can think of a few examples where they have done back ports given time (but not at launch). I still very much see this the same way as you do for Apple Intelligence. Firstly because they're unlikely to announce it for older phones unless they can get every model working well. Secondly because I notice they've been careful about which of the new AI upgrades are classified as Apple Intelligence, versus those which have been packaged into iOS 18 without fanfare. I'll give an example: The iOS 18 photos app, without "Apple Intelligence", still has an improved search function. This is driven of course by a new AI model that tags images with more detail and fidelity than earlier iterations. However "Apple Intelligence" also features further upgrades to photo searching where a user can request images with highly specific details, expressions or interactions. The example they give is "Katie with stickers on her face", and beta testers have shown examples which demonstrate that other than just tagging individual objects, those items themselves are described and searchable. (E.g. The difference is like between being able to search for photos with a "dress", versus "a red dress", "a wedding dress", <person> "wearing polka dot dress", etc.)
- papichulo2023 2y agoMaybe for the EU market?
- duckmysick 2y agoIsn't the bulk of Apple Intelligence processing on-device? You want to have powerful chipsets for local, more privacy-friendly processing.
- Lio 2y agoIn most industries regulation is an opportunity for incumbents like Apple. If Apple can profitably provide AI services without breaking privacy laws but their competitors can't Apple wins.
- dannyw 2y agoIt's unlikely to be able privacy laws, but rather DMA / competition laws. Apple Intelligence requires deep access to user data, systems apps, etc to make it useful. Under the DMA, Apple would be required to also offer similar functionality to competitors (e.g. Google).
- overstay8930 2y agoIronically the DMA is telling Apple to reduce privacy to make Apple Intelligence work in the EU, it’s just a populist political attempt at regulating a market. No sane person actually thinks Apple isn’t private enough for EU standards, they’re just not being allowed to compete because they aren’t allowing anyone else access to local user context, which would be a privacy nightmare if done incorrectly.
- guappa 2y agoI think you don't really understand what you're talking about.
- jacooper 2y agoNone of the EU ai rules prohibit apple from enabling apple intelligence in the EU, they just don't want to. Gemini, Claude, chatgpt all already exist.
- ErigmolCt 2y agoNow that I'm thinking about buying a new phone, maybe it's worth waiting for the SE to come out
- nfriedly 2y agoYeah, MacRumors thinks a new iPhone SE is due sometime soon, based mostly on how long it's been since the last model released: https://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#iPhone_SE https://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#iPhone_SE
- GeekyBear 2y agoGoing by past practices and current rumors, I would expect an iPhone 14 body and display (FaceID, OLED, and no large bezels) with the current flagship model SOC and a single recent gen camera module. It will be interesting to see how much they bump up the RAM for Apple Intelligence. New SE models tend to launch in March or April.
- runjake 2y agoYou are correct. I am wrong. And good point about Apple Intelligence. I'm disappointed in myself for not seeing that.
- loeg 2y agoYou think they'll make another SE? I thought that product line was being abandoned.
- meling 2y agoRumors say an update is in the works; my guess is a release early next year. https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/iphone-se/ https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/iphone-se/
- Reason077 2y agoReportedly, the 2025 iPhone SE will use an A18-family SoC (same as this year’s iPhone 16 models).
- aalimov_ 2y agoCould be used in an Apple TV as well?
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