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Can’t find the claim about the statement not being political anywhere in the linked article. But there’s this: > Meta’s CEO aired his grievances in a letter Mo

Can’t find the claim about the statement not being political anywhere in the linked article. But there’s this: > Meta’s CEO aired his grievances in a letter Monday to the House Judiciary Committee in response to its investigation into content moderation on online platforms Sounds like he wasn’t the initiator of the discussion, but I may be misreading the paragraph.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
And it’s in the news because it’s being made newsworthy, not because it’s new. “A U.S. federal judge,” in 2023 “restricted some agencies and officials of the administration of President Joe Biden from meeting and communicating with social media companies to moderate their content” [1]. [1] https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-blocks-us-officials-communicating-with-social-media-companies-newspaper-2023-07-04/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-blocks-us-officials-comm...
- cempaka 2y ago
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  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > funny to see MAGA people all of a sudden embracing Chad Zuckerberg, as though this represents some sort of organic character development on his part Honestly, it's refreshingly pragmatic to see American politics ditching the ideological purity tests that defined our recent history. I disagree completely with MAGA politics. But allies don't have to be friends--if someone's on your side, that's really what counts.
    - cempaka 2y ago
      Zuckerberg is pretending to be on MAGA's side so that he can assist whatever next phase of the agenda is intended for Trump's next term in office. Of course, if MAGA could pick out people who are only pretending to be on their side they wouldn't be supporting Trump in the first place.
  - ToValueFunfetti 2y ago
    He must have a fantastic PR team. Across the political spectrum, I'm seeing a ton of support for him. Decades of harvesting and selling personal data (including shadow profiles of non-users), "I don't know why people trust me", Cambridge Analytica, the metaverse/attempt at owning the future of the internet- all swept under the rug in exchange for open Llama weights and a couple statements about censorship. Musk could cure mortality without changing as many minds about him.
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > He must have a fantastic PR team. Across the political spectrum, I'm seeing a ton of support for him He's speaking to both sides and has seemingly--almost uniquely in Silicon Valley--mastered the art of shutting the fuck up. Note, for example, his disciplined reticence around endorsing a candidate.
    - datavirtue 2y ago
      Zuck has donated piles of money to key organizations. The left will not report anything critical of anything Meta. Bread is buttered. Like when Walmart shows up in a town and starts donating before applying for permits.
- jasonlotito 2y ago
  More to the point: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/06/scotus-tosses-claims-that-biden-coerced-social-media-removals/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/06/scotus-tosses-cl... "On Wednesday, the Supreme Court tossed out claims that the Biden administration coerced social media platforms into censoring users by removing COVID-19 and election-related content."
  - laidoffamazon 2y ago
    Very funny that the initial case got lots of press on HN and got people like patio11 in a tizzy but when it was tossed out by SCOTUS there was nary a peep.
    - Palmik 2y ago
      The headlines on the ruling can be misleading: > Plaintiffs may have succeeded if they were instead seeking damages for past harms. But in her opinion, Justice Amy Coney Barrett wrote that partly because the Biden administration seemingly stopped influencing platforms' content policies in 2022, none of the plaintiffs could show evidence of a "substantial risk that, in the near future, they will suffer an injury that is traceable" to any government official. Thus, they did not seem to face "a real and immediate threat of repeated injury," Barrett wrote.
      - laidoffamazon 2y ago
        Whatever it takes to spin a 6-3 decision man. It was clear from the start that this supposed government “pressure” doesn’t and never did exist.
        stcroixx 2y ago
        Are you saying Zuck is lying and the government did not do what he's saying they did? In Twitter's case, there are emails from Adam Schiff - do you think that evidence is fraudulent?

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

And it’s in the news because it’s being made newsworthy, not because it’s new. “A U.S. federal judge,” in 2023 “restricted some agencies and officials of the administration of President Joe Biden from meeting and communicating with social media companies to moderate their content” [1]. [1] https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-blocks-us-officials-communicating-with-social-media-companies-newspaper-2023-07-04/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-blocks-us-officials-comm...

cempaka 2y ago
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- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > funny to see MAGA people all of a sudden embracing Chad Zuckerberg, as though this represents some sort of organic character development on his part Honestly, it's refreshingly pragmatic to see American politics ditching the ideological purity tests that defined our recent history. I disagree completely with MAGA politics. But allies don't have to be friends--if someone's on your side, that's really what counts.
  - cempaka 2y ago
    Zuckerberg is pretending to be on MAGA's side so that he can assist whatever next phase of the agenda is intended for Trump's next term in office. Of course, if MAGA could pick out people who are only pretending to be on their side they wouldn't be supporting Trump in the first place.
- ToValueFunfetti 2y ago
  He must have a fantastic PR team. Across the political spectrum, I'm seeing a ton of support for him. Decades of harvesting and selling personal data (including shadow profiles of non-users), "I don't know why people trust me", Cambridge Analytica, the metaverse/attempt at owning the future of the internet- all swept under the rug in exchange for open Llama weights and a couple statements about censorship. Musk could cure mortality without changing as many minds about him.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > He must have a fantastic PR team. Across the political spectrum, I'm seeing a ton of support for him He's speaking to both sides and has seemingly--almost uniquely in Silicon Valley--mastered the art of shutting the fuck up. Note, for example, his disciplined reticence around endorsing a candidate.
  - datavirtue 2y ago
    Zuck has donated piles of money to key organizations. The left will not report anything critical of anything Meta. Bread is buttered. Like when Walmart shows up in a town and starts donating before applying for permits.
jasonlotito 2y ago
More to the point: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/06/scotus-tosses-claims-that-biden-coerced-social-media-removals/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/06/scotus-tosses-cl... "On Wednesday, the Supreme Court tossed out claims that the Biden administration coerced social media platforms into censoring users by removing COVID-19 and election-related content."
- laidoffamazon 2y ago
  Very funny that the initial case got lots of press on HN and got people like patio11 in a tizzy but when it was tossed out by SCOTUS there was nary a peep.
  - Palmik 2y ago
    The headlines on the ruling can be misleading: > Plaintiffs may have succeeded if they were instead seeking damages for past harms. But in her opinion, Justice Amy Coney Barrett wrote that partly because the Biden administration seemingly stopped influencing platforms' content policies in 2022, none of the plaintiffs could show evidence of a "substantial risk that, in the near future, they will suffer an injury that is traceable" to any government official. Thus, they did not seem to face "a real and immediate threat of repeated injury," Barrett wrote.
    - laidoffamazon 2y ago
      Whatever it takes to spin a 6-3 decision man. It was clear from the start that this supposed government “pressure” doesn’t and never did exist.
      - stcroixx 2y ago
        Are you saying Zuck is lying and the government did not do what he's saying they did? In Twitter's case, there are emails from Adam Schiff - do you think that evidence is fraudulent?