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Why on earth you want 10X longer video with same information content as the shorter video?

polotics 2y ago
Clearly the add-supported side, that likes to pad and pad and show more adds, is working against the premium/fee-supported side, that wants to maximise value and engagement. Premium subscribers should be able to give feedback on a video's density IMHO...
- HPsquared 2y ago
  Length is shown in the thumbnail. Too long, no click, less views. I also wouldn't be surprised if the recommendation algo uses premium status as an input
rajup 2y ago
Why on earth would you watch a 1.5 hour movie when you can watch a 2 min TikTok that explains the entire story? In a world full of distractions I for one love the more slow-paced videos than “shorts” churned out by content mills designed to feed the modern day digital ADHD…
- nextlevelwizard 2y ago
  Few years ago “long burn” story telling was hot and we are still feeling the effects. Take any show on Netflix and it will be 8 45min episodes from which first 3 are absolutely garbage filler. Youtube learned the wrong lesson and started to optimize the algorithm for retention and length. It is annoying to click for a review of some product that looks like a lengthy one with probably tests and what not only to see painfully slow unboxing and a wikipedia read of the history of the product and company and then sponsor read and then they turn on the device for a minute and give arbitrary score. Exact same info could have been communicated in 30seconds, but then they wouldn’t get sponsor money and mid video ad roll
  - rajup 2y ago
    I beg to disagree. I don’t watch movies to “get information”. I watch movies (and long form YouTube videos) to be entertained. Why travel places? You can look up photos and videos online and get the same “information”.
    - nextlevelwizard 2y ago
      I don't get the strawman you are trying to construct here. Most of Youtube is not movies
- johnisgood 2y ago
  10 minutes of a shitty movie is too long, but one great movie might be not enough and I want a TV series out of it!
tsimionescu 2y ago
I find it a small price to pay if a few videos are too long (you can usually tell within three minutes anyway), to have a platform that generally encourages 30 minute videos and even 3 hour videos that do have content. There's almost no meaningful 3 minute content possible, so a platform like TikTok that only works for short videos is basically condemned to be meaning-less, to be pure entertainment.

Clearly the add-supported side, that likes to pad and pad and show more adds, is working against the premium/fee-supported side, that wants to maximise value and engagement. Premium subscribers should be able to give feedback on a video's density IMHO...

HPsquared 2y ago
Length is shown in the thumbnail. Too long, no click, less views. I also wouldn't be surprised if the recommendation algo uses premium status as an input

rajup 2y ago

Why on earth would you watch a 1.5 hour movie when you can watch a 2 min TikTok that explains the entire story? In a world full of distractions I for one love the more slow-paced videos than “shorts” churned out by content mills designed to feed the modern day digital ADHD…

nextlevelwizard 2y ago
Few years ago “long burn” story telling was hot and we are still feeling the effects. Take any show on Netflix and it will be 8 45min episodes from which first 3 are absolutely garbage filler. Youtube learned the wrong lesson and started to optimize the algorithm for retention and length. It is annoying to click for a review of some product that looks like a lengthy one with probably tests and what not only to see painfully slow unboxing and a wikipedia read of the history of the product and company and then sponsor read and then they turn on the device for a minute and give arbitrary score. Exact same info could have been communicated in 30seconds, but then they wouldn’t get sponsor money and mid video ad roll
- rajup 2y ago
  I beg to disagree. I don’t watch movies to “get information”. I watch movies (and long form YouTube videos) to be entertained. Why travel places? You can look up photos and videos online and get the same “information”.
  - nextlevelwizard 2y ago
    I don't get the strawman you are trying to construct here. Most of Youtube is not movies
johnisgood 2y ago
10 minutes of a shitty movie is too long, but one great movie might be not enough and I want a TV series out of it!

tsimionescu 2y ago

I find it a small price to pay if a few videos are too long (you can usually tell within three minutes anyway), to have a platform that generally encourages 30 minute videos and even 3 hour videos that do have content. There's almost no meaningful 3 minute content possible, so a platform like TikTok that only works for short videos is basically condemned to be meaning-less, to be pure entertainment.