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A search engine by and for the federal government
- Zigurd 2y agoIf you click through to sign up, there is a notice that it is for official use only (FOUO).
- caprock 2y agoHere's the repo: https://github.com/GSA/search-gov https://github.com/GSA/search-gov
- benced 2y agoThe new tech stuff the government has been putting out is legitimately fantastic. login.gov is probably my favorite sign-in experience, maybe slightly behind Google's (and considerably ahead of Apple or Microsoft's).
- blackeyeblitzar 2y agoDo they still force you to share your biometrics with a third party private service (Id.me)?
- paulirish 2y agoLogin.gov doesn't.. but plenty of federal sites (like IRS) are still using that id.me poppycock. Here's to hoping they prioritize a migration soon.
- toomuchtodo 2y agoLogin.gov is adding the capabilities needed to meet IRS’ identity and credential proofing requirements. Will require biometrics in some form, with fallback to in person proofing at USPS. (no affiliation, just a fan)
- Terr_ 2y agoI was absolutely flabbergasted that they didn't even white-label the third party stuff behind their own .gov domain, which means they're mis-training users towards "It's normal to hand over extremely sensitive official information to vaguely-plausible-looking companies with websites and certificates ultimately under the control of Montenegro."
- SoftTalker 2y agoAnd they'll accept anything from you without any ID whatsoever if you just use paper and a postage stamp.
- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y agoWhat do you mean exactly?
- photonbeam 2y agoThe IRS doesnt require any auth if you print out whatever and mail it to them, no internet. They just believe you
- redserk 2y agoI doubt any conventional web user knows or cares that “.me” is a ccTLD, or that it’s even related to Montenegro. If anything the reaction is “you don’t need a .com!?”
- mgiampapa 2y agoSSA Already announced the switch to login.gov, it looks like it will have broad support if they are starting the migration there.
- xalebf 2y agoThere’s a ton of interesting stuff at https://www.web.dma.mil/WEB-NextGen/ https://www.web.dma.mil/WEB-NextGen/ Just look at the significant links section
- mrmetanoia 2y agoYeah it's cool. Lately just feels like they're doing work, not all home runs, but they're out there swinging.
- kylebenzle 2y agoI've noticed this too, night and day from the Trump years. Here in Ohio we have the Intel plant going up just east of me, goverment spending is great when it works and thats what the Dems have become all about. But the flip side is our courts have been sold off to the highest bidder and our juvinile and family court systems are run like for porfit orphanages with the legal right to seperate children from their families [1]. Big government is great when it works but terrifying when it overreaches as is happening now. I'm glad everyone is making money but, in more ways than one, we are simply incurring a debt that will have to be paid back by our children. 1. https://www.amazon.com/Injustice-Inc-Americas-Commodifies-Children/dp/0520396057 https://www.amazon.com/Injustice-Inc-Americas-Commodifies-Ch...
- aragonite 2y agohttps://data.gov https://data.gov is also worth mentioning
- vasco 2y agoIt's funny we expect governments stuff to be so bad that when they do something at the level of a regular SaaS our minds are blown.
- adgjlsfhk1 2y agoit's the virtuous cycle of Republicans running on the meme that the government is inherently bad, then using their power to make it worse
- polartx 2y agoOh look, only took 7 comments to find someone that is making the assertion that bad UX is a partisan issue.
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- nitwit005 2y agoIt's essentially true. Look at the battle over the IRS trying to make it easier to file taxes. Republicans are strongly opposed. If the government websites are too good, a lot of useless middlemen will be out of business.
- coolsuds420 2y agoIt’s partisan. Progressives obfuscate important information like mug shots and information about the race and intelligence of criminals.
- popalchemist 2y agoIt may not be true in principle, but it's true in practice.
- jmartrican 2y agoreminds me of Snow Crash, where the US federal government is reduced to a software entity.
- Mistletoe 2y agoI remember on some radio show many years back a program where tech people were going back to government to make the tech better. They interviewed the guy that started it and it was really inspiring. I wish I could remember more details. These are true patriots.
- SteveGerencser 2y agoPeople like Matt Cutts left Google to do exactly this. Much happier than when he was the head of the Google Search Spam team.
- metalang 2y agoYou might be thinking of the US Digital Service (https://www.usds.gov/ https://www.usds.gov/)
- joquarky 2y agohttps://codeforamerica.org/ https://codeforamerica.org/ sounds similar
- ChrisArchitect 2y agoNot new, 2010 maybe? But even more ingrained as part of government's 2023 Delivering A Digital-First Public Experience guidance to all agencies. https://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/briefing-room/2023/09/22/fact-sheet-building-digital-experiences-for-the-american-people/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/briefing-room/2023/09/22/fact...
- edward 2y agoMy first search attempt return no hits. "Sorry, no results found for 'Israel'. Try entering fewer or more general search terms." https://find.search.gov/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&affiliate=usasearch&query=Israel https://find.search.gov/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&affiliate=usas...
- DominikPeters 2y agoThis search box only searches search.gov, so it's not surprising if there are no results for topics that are not about search engines. For "Israel" you can click the "Search again on USA.gov" tab.
- whoknowsidont 2y agoThat's because you're searching search.gov, not all government websites. Besides this being what it "obviously" is doing, the error message also states this plainly: >Are you looking for information from across government? Please search again on USA.gov. Click the "Search again on USA.gov" link above the search button here, or use the link below to go to the main USA.gov website. Search.gov is a service powering the search boxes on government agencies' websites. You are currently searching the Search.gov website, and this website only contains information about our service.
- hartator 2y ago"search" returns nothing to: https://find.search.gov/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&affiliate=usasearch&query=search https://find.search.gov/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&affiliate=usas...
- wslh 2y agoFrance, Argentina, etc all produce the same result. It would had been a fast test to discover that.
- edward 2y agoSure, I tried one country name and it didn't work.
- neilv 2y agoWhy would a .gov Web site like this have dependencies on, and information leaks to, googletagmanager.com and crazyegg.com?
- darby_nine 2y agoMaybe I'm dense but why would you expect a government service to not use common tooling available to them?
- n_plus_1_acc 2y agoI think access to government services is an impoetant part of democracy. Because you have no alternative, they should be Held to higher Standards of privacy. Google doesn't need to know everything.
- Karrot_Kream 2y agoThis is how you increase the cost of government services. Though it would be nice if over time the government developed their own alternatives.
- fmbb 2y agoHow would removing tag manager make this website more expensive to run?
- MOARDONGZPLZ 2y agoIt would be much more difficult to understand what users are doing with the products and prioritize development.
- neilv 2y agoCan you give an example?
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- kosolam 2y agoI couldn’t find the search text field or button. ??
- bydlocoder 2y agoRussian Gosuslugi and Ukrainian Diya coming to US!
- ulrischa 2y agoA cool thing. In Germany this would not be possible. EVB-IT Cloud contracts, DSGVO and other legal stuff slow down everything and costs are exploding. No inhouse ressources available double the trouble
- leononame 2y agoI have s feeling GDPR is often used as an excuse in these cases while there is little evidence that it's actually slowing anything down. Especially for government: they do have the data alread and the GDPR applies to the dat itself, not whether you put a fancy frontend on it or not. Government departments tend to be slow to adopt - again, based on feeling more than hard evidence - especially emin Germany. They'll just try to find some scapegoat for why they're failing, and GDPR is perfect. I've seen the same in businesses as well, where I've seen told numerous times they're behind schedule because of GDPR or they can't do this because of GDPR and it's just not true most of the time. People just like to hide their incompetence I don't know anything about EVB-IT, so I'll shut up about that part
- ulrischa 2y agoI know about EVB-IT and GDPR. And it is actually slowing down a lot. While each of these things can be managed the combination is a productive killer. You will understand this if you ever worked as a it-project manager in the German goverment. There is a representative for everything and he is just doing his part and blocking everything not in his work field. It is not something like GDPR alone but the combination and the handling of these aspects. And law aspects always get the highest proirority.
- yesbut 2y agoThe search results aren't very good https://tinyurl.com/seargovresults https://tinyurl.com/seargovresults
- georgeplusplus 2y agoThe gov usually contracts out its coding. Waa this made contractors under the federal gov or actual gov employees?
- britta 2y agoThe team is a mix of employees and contractors. They also offer customers (government agencies who use their service) the option to use Bing results or their in-house Elasticsearch results: https://search.gov/admin-center/content/content-overview.html https://search.gov/admin-center/content/content-overview.htm... They do good work, and it’s an important service. I believe it saves a ton of money for the federal government by reducing reinvention of the wheel. As a former federal employee and current federal contractor, it’s been very helpful to be able to use their no-cost-to-customer search services on multiple projects. On my current project we eventually shifted to doing our own search (using Postgres full text search) so we could customize the indexing and ranking, but Search.gov was a useful interim solution.
- georgeplusplus 2y agoIt's good too see I wish gov would make more in house solutions instead of contacting it out. At my department that's all we do. Farm it out to 365 or beltway defense companies