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This rollercoaster is not over yet. There's a crowdstrike issue causing windows machines/servers to brick globally and this industry is heavily windows depende

This rollercoaster is not over yet. There's a crowdstrike issue causing windows machines/servers to brick globally and this industry is heavily windows dependent. It may or may not be related to the Azure issue but it's suspicious to me. https://www.reddit.com/r/crowdstrike/comments/1e6vmkf/bsod_error_in_latest_crowdstrike_update/ https://www.reddit.com/r/crowdstrike/comments/1e6vmkf/bsod_e...

dagaci 2y ago
On the wireless they are reporting a bad Crowdstrike update and a major Azure failover in central USA as separate events, are they they the same or different?
- SSLy 2y ago
  They seem either unrelated, or the Azure one was caused by CrowdStrike.
  - pantulis 2y ago
    Too many black swans the same day, I'd guess Azure is running Crowdstrike software.
    - gliptic 2y ago
      Azure having problems is not a black swan event.
      - pantulis 2y ago
        Fair point.
- dagaci 2y ago
  A whole lot of people are running Crowdstrike in the cloud and on local PC An crowdstrike update last night caused a windows kernel panic Azure/Crowdstrike personel have spend rolled back the update in the cloud Local IT people will have to revert it from local machines manually
Taniwha 2y ago
HN discussion here - needs to be on the front page - here in NZ ATMs, supermarkets, satellite TV channels are all down https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41002195 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41002195
caf 2y ago
Yeah, it's far from just airlines affected. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-19/global-it-outage-crowdstrike-microsoft-banks-airlines-australia/104119960 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-19/global-it-outage-crow...
mirekrusin 2y ago
Europe will wake up to flood of problems as well. This needs to be at the top of HN. We are experiencing multiple issues here in EU. This issue feels extremely widely spread. Maybe we don't hear ppl complaining because we're offline? :)
- javaunsafe2019 2y ago
  Berlin airport is down
  - nicbou 2y ago
    A few others as well, it seems.
  - mitjam 2y ago
    Just in time for the beginning of school holidays in Berlin. Today, they expected 86.000 travelers in BER alone (https://www.airliners.de/flughafen-ber-erwartet-rekordzahl-passagieren-sommerferien/75506 https://www.airliners.de/flughafen-ber-erwartet-rekordzahl-p...)
- vesinisa 2y ago
  Maybe they have rolled back the update and Windows boxes in Europe are no longer pulling it?
  - vladvasiliu 2y ago
    They did around 8:30 CEST (6:30 GTM) as I understand it. Some of our servers managed to unbork themselves after a number of boot loops, but not all.
- surfingdino 2y ago
  Ryanair is unable to check in passengers online. You can check in at the airport.
  - ben_w 2y ago
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bun_terminator 2y ago
I have never heard of crowdstrike. Is that some kind of antivirus? How is that related to PCs not booting? And why does it affect so many PCs if I've never heard of it? I'm so confused
- shadow28 2y ago
  They make security software that is really popular in various industries.
  - davidmurdoch 2y ago
    They make malware that steals funds from corporations (willingly!) so these corps can tick a security checkbox for some certification investors have been told is paramount; it's just disguised as security software.
    - account42 2y ago
      So in other words, they make "security" software just like any other security software company.
  - moogly 2y ago
    Baffling name. Sounds more apt for a DDoS service.
- shrikant 2y ago
  It's enterprise anti-malware that [in addition to other bits] has a client component installed on all PCs in the corporate network. An update to that client component (called an "endpoint") is causing those Windows machines to BSOD. It's unlikely you'd have heard of it unless you've worked at a large enterprise that runs primarily Microsoft IT. Crowdstrike does have Mac/Linux "endpoints" also (IIRC) but I'm unsure if they're affected as well.
  - bun_terminator 2y ago
    I've never seen a non-Windows machine tbh. But our IT just send out an update that we don't use crowdstrike. Strange that I never heard of it if it's so widespread. But thanks
maeil 2y ago
Almost certainly Azure using Crowdstrike on Windows in one way or another. Not surprising that AWS and GCP don't seem to be hit as they wouldn't run anything on Windows, unlike Azure, who I'm sure are forced to do so under MS' infamous interdepartmental structure.
- raverbashing 2y ago
  Ugh. Though I can image there's a Azure market for "Citrix server" kinda thing in the cloud (or maybe it's SaaS - Solitaire as a Service)
classified 2y ago
Companies using Windoze for anything touching customer business should get sued by their customers.
craxdevil7 2y ago
true, got some insights why this happened https://medium.com/@confusedcyberwarrior/when-security-becomes-the-threat-the-crowdstrike-incident-9bbaeab9db9d https://medium.com/@confusedcyberwarrior/when-security-becom..., but how they didn't had an update process like testing or QA?

dagaci 2y ago

On the wireless they are reporting a bad Crowdstrike update and a major Azure failover in central USA as separate events, are they they the same or different?

SSLy 2y ago
They seem either unrelated, or the Azure one was caused by CrowdStrike.
- pantulis 2y ago
  Too many black swans the same day, I'd guess Azure is running Crowdstrike software.
  - gliptic 2y ago
    Azure having problems is not a black swan event.
    - pantulis 2y ago
      Fair point.
dagaci 2y ago
A whole lot of people are running Crowdstrike in the cloud and on local PC An crowdstrike update last night caused a windows kernel panic Azure/Crowdstrike personel have spend rolled back the update in the cloud Local IT people will have to revert it from local machines manually

Taniwha 2y ago

HN discussion here - needs to be on the front page - here in NZ ATMs, supermarkets, satellite TV channels are all down https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41002195 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41002195

caf 2y ago

Yeah, it's far from just airlines affected. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-19/global-it-outage-crowdstrike-microsoft-banks-airlines-australia/104119960 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-19/global-it-outage-crow...

mirekrusin 2y ago

Europe will wake up to flood of problems as well. This needs to be at the top of HN. We are experiencing multiple issues here in EU. This issue feels extremely widely spread. Maybe we don't hear ppl complaining because we're offline? :)

javaunsafe2019 2y ago
Berlin airport is down
- nicbou 2y ago
  A few others as well, it seems.
- mitjam 2y ago
  Just in time for the beginning of school holidays in Berlin. Today, they expected 86.000 travelers in BER alone (https://www.airliners.de/flughafen-ber-erwartet-rekordzahl-passagieren-sommerferien/75506 https://www.airliners.de/flughafen-ber-erwartet-rekordzahl-p...)
vesinisa 2y ago
Maybe they have rolled back the update and Windows boxes in Europe are no longer pulling it?
- vladvasiliu 2y ago
  They did around 8:30 CEST (6:30 GTM) as I understand it. Some of our servers managed to unbork themselves after a number of boot loops, but not all.
surfingdino 2y ago
Ryanair is unable to check in passengers online. You can check in at the airport.
- ben_w 2y ago

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bun_terminator 2y ago

I have never heard of crowdstrike. Is that some kind of antivirus? How is that related to PCs not booting? And why does it affect so many PCs if I've never heard of it? I'm so confused

shadow28 2y ago
They make security software that is really popular in various industries.
- davidmurdoch 2y ago
  They make malware that steals funds from corporations (willingly!) so these corps can tick a security checkbox for some certification investors have been told is paramount; it's just disguised as security software.
  - account42 2y ago
    So in other words, they make "security" software just like any other security software company.
- moogly 2y ago
  Baffling name. Sounds more apt for a DDoS service.
shrikant 2y ago
It's enterprise anti-malware that [in addition to other bits] has a client component installed on all PCs in the corporate network. An update to that client component (called an "endpoint") is causing those Windows machines to BSOD. It's unlikely you'd have heard of it unless you've worked at a large enterprise that runs primarily Microsoft IT. Crowdstrike does have Mac/Linux "endpoints" also (IIRC) but I'm unsure if they're affected as well.
- bun_terminator 2y ago
  I've never seen a non-Windows machine tbh. But our IT just send out an update that we don't use crowdstrike. Strange that I never heard of it if it's so widespread. But thanks

maeil 2y ago

Almost certainly Azure using Crowdstrike on Windows in one way or another. Not surprising that AWS and GCP don't seem to be hit as they wouldn't run anything on Windows, unlike Azure, who I'm sure are forced to do so under MS' infamous interdepartmental structure.

raverbashing 2y ago
Ugh. Though I can image there's a Azure market for "Citrix server" kinda thing in the cloud (or maybe it's SaaS - Solitaire as a Service)

classified 2y ago

Companies using Windoze for anything touching customer business should get sued by their customers.

craxdevil7 2y ago

true, got some insights why this happened https://medium.com/@confusedcyberwarrior/when-security-becomes-the-threat-the-crowdstrike-incident-9bbaeab9db9d https://medium.com/@confusedcyberwarrior/when-security-becom..., but how they didn't had an update process like testing or QA?