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> Reminds me of Republic of Minerva, which was quickly attacked by Tongan savages at the behest of western powers. 100% agree that this is racist, even a curso
by doctor_eval 2y ago
> Reminds me of Republic of Minerva, which was quickly attacked by Tongan savages at the behest of western powers.
100% agree that this is racist, even a cursory understanding of what happened makes it obvious that official Tongan troops backed by regional pacific nations were involved.
The whole thing was an artificial island created by an American anarcho-capitalist, making the claim that “western powers” were involved even more ridiculous, considering the protagonist. Wikipedia describes what happened (edited excerpt):
> The Republic of Minerva was a micronation consisting of [snip] the reclaimed land of an artificial island in 1972. The architect was Las Vegas real estate millionaire and political activist Michael Oliver [snip] they anticipated a libertarian society with "no taxation, welfare, subsidies, or any form of economic interventionism."
> When asked about the Minervan's project, the King of Tonga, Taufaʻahau Tupou IV, denied rumors that Tonga meant to claim sovereignty over it, yet said "it was in the best interest of Tonga not to allow a group of people, whose objects were to make money and whose activities could be harmful, to become established on the reefs." Neighboring countries agreed; Fiji’s Prime Minister, Ratu Sir Kamisese Mara, claimed the actions of the Minervans set a dangerous precedent: "If these people can claim Minerva, what would stop them from doing it here?"
> Consequently, a conference of the neighboring states (Australia, New Zealand, Tonga, Fiji, Nauru, Samoa, and territory of Cook Islands) met on 24 February 1972 at which Tonga made a claim over the Minerva Reefs, and the rest of the states recognized its claim.
> A Tongan expedition was sent to enforce the claim, arriving on 18 June 1972.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Minerva https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Minerva
There is no sense in any of this that anyone attacking these idiots were savages, and any statement claiming that they were is quite simply racist.
As an aside, I have been to most of these places, they are all gorgeous.
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- worik 2y ago> losing their racist witch burning game What the actual fuck? Witch burning? Hmm... Quite the martyr!
- dang 2y agoWe've banned the other user, but please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes things worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- doctor_eval 2y agoBefore. That’s why I bothered to look it up. And that’s when I discovered that the “savages” were actually employees of the Tongan government acting with the authority of the Pacific Forum. You’re not very good at this “good faith” business are you, friend?
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- Apocryphon 2y agoAnd then the Phoenix Foundation tried to overthrow the government of the Bahamas in collaboration with famed mercenary Mitchell WerBell. Now who's the violent invaders? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abaco_Independence_Movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abaco_Independence_Movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Foundation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Foundation
- doctor_eval 2y ago> The Foundation's next attempt to establish a libertarian state [after Minerva] was in 1973 on the island of Abaco in the Bahamas. In the period approaching Bahamian independence, a number of white residents objected to living under black rule. !
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