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What are you on about? They publish their research advancing the field. And gemini has caught up with openai and anybody else.

morbicer 2y ago
I am glad they are advancing the field but I think it's unfortunate that doesn't make them top dog. Gemini is not top tier to me but I admit that confusing naming and spotty worldwide rollout might be a reason why I am not familiar with their best model. But that's a signal on it's own. The launch was faked and I don't think the real thing is here yet https://techcrunch.com/2023/12/07/googles-best-gemini-demo-was-faked/ https://techcrunch.com/2023/12/07/googles-best-gemini-demo-w...
AndyNemmity 2y ago
Based on this comment, decided to try out gemini. Total disaster. Doing similar tasks to openai and claude, it just borks. And it is complaining about my desire to use a gender guesser python libary, and tells me that's inappropriate for non-binary people, and it won't do it. That's fun. Edit 1: Also it refuses to print the entire script. I've tried many work arounds, it seems to only want to output a very small number of total lines. Threw it into ChatGPT and immediately it fixed all the issues with Gemini, and worked on first try. Edit 2: The only thing better about Gemini as far as I can tell, is that the copy code button is on the bottom. ChatGPT's is at the top, and that's dumb. Edit 3: I'm being downvoted heavily now, to be clear, I didn't intentionally seek out the gender issue, it's just what I was working on. I'm currently trying to generate infographics based on wrestlers, and I needed to split the men from the female for championship title rankings. I have no problem with it in general, it just came up, so I communicated it. Multiple times Gemini removed the code using the gender guesser library because it felt I shouldn't use it. When trying to determine wrestlers, and their Title Chances, it makes a lot of sense... But Gemini just refused to allow me to use it, which seems like a ridiculous thing. I want to make the choices here.
- fswd 2y ago
  I've had the same exact experiences.
- pheatherlite 2y ago
  Problem with Google summed up. Ethics and pseudo sciences folks wanting to opinionate technology. That's akin to a kitchen knife refusing to cut gift wrapping paper because that's inappropriate use of a knife. The silliness
septic-liqueur 2y ago
The problem with Gemini is the guardrails they've built into it which makes it useless for me. Which is a problem that has to do with Google and not any AI smarts.

morbicer 2y ago

I am glad they are advancing the field but I think it's unfortunate that doesn't make them top dog. Gemini is not top tier to me but I admit that confusing naming and spotty worldwide rollout might be a reason why I am not familiar with their best model. But that's a signal on it's own. The launch was faked and I don't think the real thing is here yet https://techcrunch.com/2023/12/07/googles-best-gemini-demo-was-faked/ https://techcrunch.com/2023/12/07/googles-best-gemini-demo-w...

AndyNemmity 2y ago

Based on this comment, decided to try out gemini. Total disaster. Doing similar tasks to openai and claude, it just borks. And it is complaining about my desire to use a gender guesser python libary, and tells me that's inappropriate for non-binary people, and it won't do it. That's fun. Edit 1: Also it refuses to print the entire script. I've tried many work arounds, it seems to only want to output a very small number of total lines. Threw it into ChatGPT and immediately it fixed all the issues with Gemini, and worked on first try. Edit 2: The only thing better about Gemini as far as I can tell, is that the copy code button is on the bottom. ChatGPT's is at the top, and that's dumb. Edit 3: I'm being downvoted heavily now, to be clear, I didn't intentionally seek out the gender issue, it's just what I was working on. I'm currently trying to generate infographics based on wrestlers, and I needed to split the men from the female for championship title rankings. I have no problem with it in general, it just came up, so I communicated it. Multiple times Gemini removed the code using the gender guesser library because it felt I shouldn't use it. When trying to determine wrestlers, and their Title Chances, it makes a lot of sense... But Gemini just refused to allow me to use it, which seems like a ridiculous thing. I want to make the choices here.

fswd 2y ago
I've had the same exact experiences.
pheatherlite 2y ago
Problem with Google summed up. Ethics and pseudo sciences folks wanting to opinionate technology. That's akin to a kitchen knife refusing to cut gift wrapping paper because that's inappropriate use of a knife. The silliness

septic-liqueur 2y ago

The problem with Gemini is the guardrails they've built into it which makes it useless for me. Which is a problem that has to do with Google and not any AI smarts.