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Image recognition is AI.
by level1ten 2y ago
Image recognition is AI.
- rzzzt 2y agoMaybe it is easier to define what isn't AI? Toshiba's handwritten postal code recognizers from the 1970s? Fuzzy logic in washing machines that adjusts the pre-programmed cycle based on laundry weight and dirtyness?
- singpolyma3 2y agoThose both sound like AI to me An example of similar computer can do that isn't AI would be arithmetic
- rzzzt 2y agoAdding two numbers, each having 100 digits? Reciting the fractional part of Π on and on? I have only seen that done by talented people appearing in TV shows. Seems AI.
- ska 2y agoHistorically, we often call something AI while we don’t really understand how it works. After that it quietly gets subsumed into machine learning or another area and called X algorithm.
- mysterymath 2y agoThere's an old saying: "Yesterday's AI is today's algorithm". Few would consider A* search for route-planning or Alpha-Beta pruning for game playing to be "Capital A Captial I" today, but they absolutely were back at their inception. Heck, the various modern elaborations on A* are mostly still published in a journal of AI (AAAI).
- bitwize 2y agoApparently there was a big scare that AI would take programmers' jobs away... decades ago, when the first compilers came out.
- 6510 2y agoYes, no more machine code. Everything was to be written in BASIC. ...how we laughed at that outlandish idea. It was so obvious performance would be... well... what we have today pretty much.
- bitwize 2y agoIKR? If you can't hand-pick where instructions are located on the drum, you may have to use separate constants, and if that's the case what is even the point?
- 6510 2y agoIf you spend a few hours writing a bit of code that has to run for decades, millions or billions of times per day on hundreds of thousands or millions of machines it seems quite significant to use only the instructions needed to make it work. A few hundreds of thousands extra seems a lot. One would imagine other useful things could be done with quintillions or septillions of cycles besides saving a few development hours.
- level1ten 2y agoWe will likely develop more accurate names for the different shades of AI after the fact. Or the AI will.
- mrbombastic 2y agoThis is a fair point and maybe someone more well versed can correct me but pretty much all state of the art image recognition is trained neural networks nowadays right? A* is still something a human can reasonably code, it seems to me that there is a legitimate distinction between these types of things nowadays.
- Teleoflexuous 2y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect We got it named already, it just needs to be properly propagated until there's no value left in calling things 'AI'.
- singpolyma3 2y agoA* is definitely AI... Why would someone say it isn't?
- callalex 2y agoAs a data point in my early 2010s computer science bachelor program it was taught to me as the A* algorithm.
- ericd 2y agoRight, in an AI class. For example, lecture 5 in 6.034: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/6-034-artificial-intelligence-fall-2010/pages/readings/ https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/6-034-artificial-intelligence-fa...
- callalex 2y agoNo, in an introduction to data structures and algorithms class. It’s pretty odd behavior to disagree with someone who is simply sharing their lived experience.
- lukan 2y agoSame class name with the same algorithm for me.
- ericd 2y agoYeah sorry, rereading, that came off as way aggressive for no reason. Rereading the chain, I think I just meant that it’s an algorithm that was frequently taught in AI classes, so at least some profs think it counts, even though it was called an algorithm.
- serf 2y agosame as parent, it was taught to me in an introduction to algorithms class, and no one during my academic stay ever referred to it as an AI. I don't disagree that it certainly meets certain AI criteria, just saying that particular phrasing (A* is AI) was never used.