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>bunch of nonsense Ok lets see .. Finland invasion. >Finland was a co-belligerent with Nazi Germany during the early years of World War II ... >The Siege o

>bunch of nonsense Ok lets see .. Finland invasion. >Finland was a co-belligerent with Nazi Germany during the early years of World War II ... >The Siege of Leningrad was a prolonged military siege undertaken by the Axis powers and co-belligerent Finland against the Soviet city of Leningrad (present-day Saint Petersburg) on the Eastern Front of World War II. Germany's Army Group North advanced from the south, while the German-allied Finnish army invaded from the north and completed the ring around the city. https://www.state.gov/reports/just-act-report-to-congress/finland/ https://www.state.gov/reports/just-act-report-to-congress/fi... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad Georgia: >The war in Georgia last year was started by a Georgian attack that was not justified by international law, an EU-sponsored report has concluded. The conflict erupted on 7 August 2008, as Georgia shelled the breakaway region of South Ossetia, in an attempt to regain control over it. The previous months had seen a series of clashes. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8281990.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8281990.stm >gee, wonder why they all want to be in NATO Gee, I wonder if its the same motivation as for Poland to be in eu: https://www.statista.com/chart/18794/net-contributors-to-eu-budget/ https://www.statista.com/chart/18794/net-contributors-to-eu-...

reducesuffering 2y ago
Soviets demanded Finland cede substantial territory and when they said no, the Soviets invaded and annexed a substantial part of Finland to this day. You’re quoting a 2009 article. Everyone that doesn’t mindlessly watch RT already confirmed that it was South Ossetian separatists that started shelling other Georgians and that Russia has no business also invading Georgia over that. Russia air attacked areas around Georgia’s capital Tbilisi.
- LtVodka 2y ago
  Who is this "everyone"? Was the cited EU report updated? I'm quoting a BBC article, which is hardly in a Russian corner. In any case, it has more credibility than a "trust me, bro" on HN. I would love to watch RT but its censored in EU.
racional 2y ago
The 2009 EU report has been widely criticized as flawed, both at the time in years since. You can drill down on the details here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_for_the_Russo-Georgian_War#EU_Independent_Fact_Finding_Mission_Report https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_for_the_Russo-G... >Finland was a co-belligerent with Nazi Germany during the early years of World War II Which happened after (and never would have happened without) the Winter War.
- LtVodka 2y ago
  >and never would have happened without We don't know that now do we? Reading EU Report: sure its criticized, it does not make it wrong.
sergeykish 2y ago
In 1939 Moscow invaded Finland, killed 25,000 its citizens, annexed 10% of territory. Do you claim Finland should have been Moscow ally afterwards?
- LtVodka 2y ago
  No I claim Finland should not have been a NAZI ally. There is no excuse and nothing will wash this part of history clean.. Oh and since we are counting dead: The siege of Leningrad of which Finland was a part of: >The siege became one of the longest and most destructive sieges in history, and it was possibly the costliest siege in history due to the number of casualties which were suffered throughout its duration. An estimated 1.5 million people died as a result of the siege.
  - sergeykish 2y ago
    Molotov-Ribbentrop pact — Moscow invaded Finland (1939), occupied Baltic states (1939), divided Poland with Germany (1939). Moscow was Germany ally for two years of WW2. Holodomor (1932-1933): Moscow killed millions without active war. "Great Britain, USA should not have been Moscow ally"? Moscow invaded Finland in 1939. Siege of Leningrad was in 1941. "Poland provoked occupation by Germany" (1939)?
    - LtVodka 2y ago
      >Siege of Leningrad was in 1941. That makes it ok? >Moscow was Germany ally for two years of WW2 Are you high? Poland also signed non agression packt with Germany: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Polish_declaration_of_non-aggression https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Polish_declarat... Does it make them allies now?

reducesuffering 2y ago

Soviets demanded Finland cede substantial territory and when they said no, the Soviets invaded and annexed a substantial part of Finland to this day. You’re quoting a 2009 article. Everyone that doesn’t mindlessly watch RT already confirmed that it was South Ossetian separatists that started shelling other Georgians and that Russia has no business also invading Georgia over that. Russia air attacked areas around Georgia’s capital Tbilisi.

LtVodka 2y ago
Who is this "everyone"? Was the cited EU report updated? I'm quoting a BBC article, which is hardly in a Russian corner. In any case, it has more credibility than a "trust me, bro" on HN. I would love to watch RT but its censored in EU.

racional 2y ago

The 2009 EU report has been widely criticized as flawed, both at the time in years since. You can drill down on the details here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_for_the_Russo-Georgian_War#EU_Independent_Fact_Finding_Mission_Report https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_for_the_Russo-G... >Finland was a co-belligerent with Nazi Germany during the early years of World War II Which happened after (and never would have happened without) the Winter War.

LtVodka 2y ago
>and never would have happened without We don't know that now do we? Reading EU Report: sure its criticized, it does not make it wrong.

sergeykish 2y ago

In 1939 Moscow invaded Finland, killed 25,000 its citizens, annexed 10% of territory. Do you claim Finland should have been Moscow ally afterwards?

LtVodka 2y ago
No I claim Finland should not have been a NAZI ally. There is no excuse and nothing will wash this part of history clean.. Oh and since we are counting dead: The siege of Leningrad of which Finland was a part of: >The siege became one of the longest and most destructive sieges in history, and it was possibly the costliest siege in history due to the number of casualties which were suffered throughout its duration. An estimated 1.5 million people died as a result of the siege.
- sergeykish 2y ago
  Molotov-Ribbentrop pact — Moscow invaded Finland (1939), occupied Baltic states (1939), divided Poland with Germany (1939). Moscow was Germany ally for two years of WW2. Holodomor (1932-1933): Moscow killed millions without active war. "Great Britain, USA should not have been Moscow ally"? Moscow invaded Finland in 1939. Siege of Leningrad was in 1941. "Poland provoked occupation by Germany" (1939)?
  - LtVodka 2y ago
    >Siege of Leningrad was in 1941. That makes it ok? >Moscow was Germany ally for two years of WW2 Are you high? Poland also signed non agression packt with Germany: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Polish_declaration_of_non-aggression https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Polish_declarat... Does it make them allies now?