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i find it ironic one of the most gatekeepy, closed, walled garden companies in the history of the planet, Bloomberg, is a sponsor of one of the most free most o

i find it ironic one of the most gatekeepy, closed, walled garden companies in the history of the planet, Bloomberg, is a sponsor of one of the most free most open piece of software ever.

TZubiri 2y ago
Bloomberg sells pacakaged public information, they rely on commonwealth and transparent regulation disclosures, they are agents of such transparency. They gatekeep their product sure, but you need to do that if you want to sell it.
jameshart 2y ago
The majority of these SQLite use cases that the article is celebrating are... as the internal data store in an app where it is locking up user data in a proprietary, closed, gate kept wall garden. This irony has layers. Like an onion.
- out_of_protocol 2y ago
  Do you use music player? Most, including open source are using SQLite inside. There are open source tiling maps formats like MBTiles, based on SQLite. Just dig around, you can find plenty of examples. It's other way around since database format is well known with tooling available
  - jameshart 2y ago
    I’m not remotely claiming ‘I never use software that has SQLite inside it’. I use loads of programs that do. And that’s precisely the kind of walled garden I’m talking about. Keeping your playlists in a specific music player app’s SQLite database forces you to use that app to search or delete or share those playlists. Heck, some apps use SQLite blob storage to store images or even music files. Open software should use open file formats and store data in the file system where other programs can access it.
    - thunky 2y ago
      > Open software should use open file formats and store data in the file system where other programs can access it That's what SQLite is.
mirekrusin 2y ago
Sqlite is not open for contributions. Amazying piece of code whatever you look at it. I'd also probably win test to code ratio contest.
foobarian 2y ago
Another irony is that according to Wikipedia [1] Bloomberg maintains a fork of BDB. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_DB https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_DB

i find it ironic one of the most gatekeepy, closed, walled garden companies in the history of the planet, Bloomberg, is a sponsor of one of the most free most open piece of software ever.

TZubiri 2y ago

Bloomberg sells pacakaged public information, they rely on commonwealth and transparent regulation disclosures, they are agents of such transparency. They gatekeep their product sure, but you need to do that if you want to sell it.

jameshart 2y ago

The majority of these SQLite use cases that the article is celebrating are... as the internal data store in an app where it is locking up user data in a proprietary, closed, gate kept wall garden. This irony has layers. Like an onion.

out_of_protocol 2y ago
Do you use music player? Most, including open source are using SQLite inside. There are open source tiling maps formats like MBTiles, based on SQLite. Just dig around, you can find plenty of examples. It's other way around since database format is well known with tooling available
- jameshart 2y ago
  I’m not remotely claiming ‘I never use software that has SQLite inside it’. I use loads of programs that do. And that’s precisely the kind of walled garden I’m talking about. Keeping your playlists in a specific music player app’s SQLite database forces you to use that app to search or delete or share those playlists. Heck, some apps use SQLite blob storage to store images or even music files. Open software should use open file formats and store data in the file system where other programs can access it.
  - thunky 2y ago
    > Open software should use open file formats and store data in the file system where other programs can access it That's what SQLite is.

mirekrusin 2y ago

Sqlite is not open for contributions. Amazying piece of code whatever you look at it. I'd also probably win test to code ratio contest.

foobarian 2y ago

Another irony is that according to Wikipedia [1] Bloomberg maintains a fork of BDB. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_DB https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_DB