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Digression but Medical debt should not exist in the first place - especially not in a supposedly modern country.
by xs83 2y ago
Digression but Medical debt should not exist in the first place - especially not in a supposedly modern country.
- _heimdall 2y agoDo you mean that no one should have to pay for medical care, or that no one should offer loans to pay for it?
- IntelMiner 2y agoNobody should be financially ruined for needing medical care
- _heimdall 2y agoAnd that's the real problem to fix. The, in my opinion fraudulent, debt shouldn't be created in the first place. Allowing the debt and hiding it from a credit report only serves to further the debt problem and make credit reports nearly useless since you don't know a person's full debt profile and liabilities.
- chucke1992 2y agoIt used to work for low migration societies but it falls apart when you have huge influxes of migrants with their friends and families that did not contribute to the government for years. I see it all the time in Europe these days - medication quality goes down, queues are getting longer yet insurance, taxes and stuff are not getting lower. Because there is no way to offset a family of 3-4 people's full expenses. Especially when the migrants themselves do not contribute much themselves - having low paying jobs, no jobs and so on.
- xs83 2y agoI believe that no one should have to pay for medical care at the point of receiving it. This is what Taxes and government planning are for
- nielsbot 2y agoUS is the only (advanced) economy where people have medical bankruptcy AFAIK.
- _heimdall 2y agoIn concept I can totally get behind the idea. I lived in the Netherlands for a couple years and though I never had to go in for any serious treatment, I always heard good things from friends and neighbors there. In reality, at least in the US today, I don't trust our government to do this right. They're already way top friendly with the medical industry and have absolutely no idea what it means to plan finances. They waste a ton of tax dollars as-is and have no answer as to why we need taxes when they can literally create trillions in new money every year. On the medical side, my only caveat would be that I'd want a system that offers more than just modern, western medicine. Anyone that believes strongly in alternstive medicines should have their care covered as well, I'm not sure how that works in other countries that have socialized medical care today.
- jajko 2y ago> I'm not sure how that works in other countries that have socialized medical care today Acupuncture is paid by medical insurance in Switzerland for example, just another type of medical procedure in their books. Don't know rationale behind it, wikipedia says no clear evidence for it, but I know several people including doctors who report measurable positive differences on themselves or their patients, its just not an instant cure-it-all like some want it to be.
- _heimdall 2y agoThanks for filling in a few blanks for me! While living in the Netherlands I had a Swiss neighbor. I always appreciated how he was expected to vote on even fairly minor changes proposed by the Swiss government. Guess I'll add this to the long list of things I appreciate about the Swiss government and culture! Its always interesting to me when western modern medicine tries to scientifically validate alternative treatments that have been around for much longer. It's such a difficult thing to do, the two approaches are based on such drastically different approaches to health and the body that it really can be like trying to translate a book to English with a Latin dictionary.