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Does anyone actually use Xcode as their daily driver if their full time job is not macOS, iOS, etc developer?

by mrichman 2y ago

Waterluvian 2y ago
Is that even a thing? I thought that’s literally all it was designed for.
- lordnacho 2y ago
  When you write c++ on a mac you end up having to install some XCode related compiler stuff, something like that? Maybe you can use it for c++ if you want to?
TheTon 2y ago
Sure, I use Xcode to work on cross platform C and C++ projects. Meta build systems like cmake can generate projects or build files for various IDEs (like Xcode) or build systems (like ninja) from a single project definition. IMO, Xcode is a great IDE and I feel like it gives me productivity benefits compared to other editors or IDEs I might use. I think people who don’t like it either haven’t put in the time to master it or else they already have a preconceived notion of how their IDE ought to work based on their experience from other tools. And I think that goes for a lot of IDEs. I don’t love Visual Studio, but I also have only put in to it a fraction of the time I’ve put into Xcode, so I’m not gonna say the problem is VS. Anyway, I’m looking forward to the new Xcode updates.
- addicted 2y ago
  Even people who use Visual Studio don’t love Visual Studio. You use Visual Studio because it does have some powerful tools and some great extensions and finally because certain MS technologies require it. Most VS license holders I know largely use VS Code dropping into Visual Studio for very specific needs. XCode is the same minus the powerful tools and extensions.
ncr100 2y ago
I'd be interested to know what is your thoughts about using xcode only for Mac dev? Is are you ideating a plugin instead of the Xcode app? Or perhaps do you want to eliminate all Apple apis, so there is no need for Xcode? It's a puzzling topic, and I'm suspicious it is a red herring.. am I wrong?

Does anyone actually use Xcode as their daily driver if their full time job is not macOS, iOS, etc developer?

Waterluvian 2y ago

Is that even a thing? I thought that’s literally all it was designed for.

lordnacho 2y ago
When you write c++ on a mac you end up having to install some XCode related compiler stuff, something like that? Maybe you can use it for c++ if you want to?

TheTon 2y ago

Sure, I use Xcode to work on cross platform C and C++ projects. Meta build systems like cmake can generate projects or build files for various IDEs (like Xcode) or build systems (like ninja) from a single project definition. IMO, Xcode is a great IDE and I feel like it gives me productivity benefits compared to other editors or IDEs I might use. I think people who don’t like it either haven’t put in the time to master it or else they already have a preconceived notion of how their IDE ought to work based on their experience from other tools. And I think that goes for a lot of IDEs. I don’t love Visual Studio, but I also have only put in to it a fraction of the time I’ve put into Xcode, so I’m not gonna say the problem is VS. Anyway, I’m looking forward to the new Xcode updates.

addicted 2y ago
Even people who use Visual Studio don’t love Visual Studio. You use Visual Studio because it does have some powerful tools and some great extensions and finally because certain MS technologies require it. Most VS license holders I know largely use VS Code dropping into Visual Studio for very specific needs. XCode is the same minus the powerful tools and extensions.

ncr100 2y ago

I'd be interested to know what is your thoughts about using xcode only for Mac dev? Is are you ideating a plugin instead of the Xcode app? Or perhaps do you want to eliminate all Apple apis, so there is no need for Xcode? It's a puzzling topic, and I'm suspicious it is a red herring.. am I wrong?