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by hnuser0000 2y ago

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bagels 2y ago
The inference to draw is that the case was just?
- cortesoft 2y ago
  Or the tweet was bullshit, and Tesla will do what every company does and determine whether it is better to settle or not based on the financial cost/benefit and not the truth or validity of the claim.
- jpcfl 2y ago
  Or, that his commitment is at odds with his fiduciary duty.
- viraptor 2y ago
  Or that the man posts stuff whether it's true or not. Based on the history, maybe it's safer to ignore this and just judge the actions.
- seoulmetro 2y ago
  I wouldn't be surprised if Elon considers it just. Most people consider it just that a revolutionary technology owner is being held liable for their actions, even if they are nearly a decade afterwards. Regulation for big corporations are more like suggestions these days, so this may even feel "fair enough" for Elon in retrospect.
arandomusername 2y ago
ouff, this tweet did not age well
- boringg 2y ago
  Sounds like they must have settled a just case.
TheAlchemist 2y ago
Yep, it's the second case they settle in 2 months.
- MPSimmons 2y ago
  Must have been just cases then...
  - cottsak 2y ago
    The inference that an out of court settlement instead of trial by jury means an unjust outcome is an oversimplification at best.
nh2 2y ago
For people who do not want to wait for multiple Twitter spinners and multiple login and cookie popups, the content is: " My commitment: - We will never seek victory in a just case against us, even if we will probably win. - We will never surrender/settle an unjust case against us, even if we will probably lose. "
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- recursive 2y ago
  Posted when?
  - AlexandrB 2y ago
    May 20, 2022
    - slg 2y ago
      It could have been posted May 20, 2024 and I don't think it would have any real meaning. Musk has zero credibility with this sort of thing regardless of when it was posted.
      - bboygravity 2y ago
        Got anything to substantiate this?
        TheAlchemist 2y ago
        This website does a pretty good job: https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/ https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/
        cottsak 2y ago
        First glance at that website https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/ https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/ and I find this: "September 2014 They will be a factor of 10 safer than a person [at the wheel] in a six-year time frame" Which you can mostly write off with this data https://electrek.co/2024/05/22/tesla-finally-releases-autopilot-safety-data-after-more-than-a-year/ https://electrek.co/2024/05/22/tesla-finally-releases-autopi... So maybe FSD isn't complete, but Tesla Autopilot has made a measurable improvement to fatalities and injuries on roads. The data shows this clearly.
pylua 2y ago
I think lawyers have a different meaning for hard core. I mean, it sounds absurd to call your lawyers hard core. Just to do what he is asking you would need a team like oj had but for each simultaneous case. He should start a law firm next.
computer23 2y ago
Elon Musk says: "My commitment: - We will never seek victory in a just case against us, even if we will probably win. - We will never surrender/settle an unjust case against us, even if we will probably lose. " And yet Elon Musk filed harassing lawsuits against his critics Media Matters for America and the Center for Countering Digital Hate. Musk's SLAPP suits are contrary to his purported love of free speech. They are manifestly unjust.
1vuio0pswjnm7 2y ago
https://nitter.poast.org/elonmusk/status/1527749734668050433 https://nitter.poast.org/elonmusk/status/1527749734668050433

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1527749734668050433 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1527749734668050433

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bagels 2y ago

The inference to draw is that the case was just?

cortesoft 2y ago
Or the tweet was bullshit, and Tesla will do what every company does and determine whether it is better to settle or not based on the financial cost/benefit and not the truth or validity of the claim.
jpcfl 2y ago
Or, that his commitment is at odds with his fiduciary duty.
viraptor 2y ago
Or that the man posts stuff whether it's true or not. Based on the history, maybe it's safer to ignore this and just judge the actions.
seoulmetro 2y ago
I wouldn't be surprised if Elon considers it just. Most people consider it just that a revolutionary technology owner is being held liable for their actions, even if they are nearly a decade afterwards. Regulation for big corporations are more like suggestions these days, so this may even feel "fair enough" for Elon in retrospect.

arandomusername 2y ago

ouff, this tweet did not age well

boringg 2y ago
Sounds like they must have settled a just case.

TheAlchemist 2y ago

Yep, it's the second case they settle in 2 months.

MPSimmons 2y ago
Must have been just cases then...
- cottsak 2y ago
  The inference that an out of court settlement instead of trial by jury means an unjust outcome is an oversimplification at best.

nh2 2y ago

For people who do not want to wait for multiple Twitter spinners and multiple login and cookie popups, the content is: " My commitment: - We will never seek victory in a just case against us, even if we will probably win. - We will never surrender/settle an unjust case against us, even if we will probably lose. "

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recursive 2y ago
Posted when?
- AlexandrB 2y ago
  May 20, 2022
  - slg 2y ago
    It could have been posted May 20, 2024 and I don't think it would have any real meaning. Musk has zero credibility with this sort of thing regardless of when it was posted.
    - bboygravity 2y ago
      Got anything to substantiate this?
      - TheAlchemist 2y ago
        This website does a pretty good job: https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/ https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/
      - cottsak 2y ago
        First glance at that website https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/ https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/ and I find this: "September 2014 They will be a factor of 10 safer than a person [at the wheel] in a six-year time frame" Which you can mostly write off with this data https://electrek.co/2024/05/22/tesla-finally-releases-autopilot-safety-data-after-more-than-a-year/ https://electrek.co/2024/05/22/tesla-finally-releases-autopi... So maybe FSD isn't complete, but Tesla Autopilot has made a measurable improvement to fatalities and injuries on roads. The data shows this clearly.

pylua 2y ago

I think lawyers have a different meaning for hard core. I mean, it sounds absurd to call your lawyers hard core. Just to do what he is asking you would need a team like oj had but for each simultaneous case. He should start a law firm next.

computer23 2y ago

Elon Musk says: "My commitment: - We will never seek victory in a just case against us, even if we will probably win. - We will never surrender/settle an unjust case against us, even if we will probably lose. " And yet Elon Musk filed harassing lawsuits against his critics Media Matters for America and the Center for Countering Digital Hate. Musk's SLAPP suits are contrary to his purported love of free speech. They are manifestly unjust.

1vuio0pswjnm7 2y ago

https://nitter.poast.org/elonmusk/status/1527749734668050433 https://nitter.poast.org/elonmusk/status/1527749734668050433