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At least in past court cases I’m familiar, you can’t use an impersonator and get people to think it’s the real thing. It’s not like Tom Waits ever wanted to ho

At least in past court cases I’m familiar, you can’t use an impersonator and get people to think it’s the real thing. It’s not like Tom Waits ever wanted to hock chips https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-05-09-me-238-story.html https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-05-09-me-238-st...

chii 2y ago
> get people to think it’s the real thing. but did openAI make any claims about whose voice this is? Just because a voice sounds similar or familiar, doesn't mean it's fraudulent.
- tedivm 2y ago
  Just read the top post of the thread you're responding to- > - Not receiving a response, OpenAI demos the product anyway, with Sam tweeting “her” in reference to Scarlett’s film.
  - dzhiurgis 2y ago
    To me reference sounds more to towards omni than her voice
    - altairprime 2y ago
      What’s “omni”?
      - nickthegreek 2y ago
        GTP-4o is the new model, the o stands for Omni.
    - nickthegreek 2y ago
      That’s not a gamble they are willing to take to court of law or public opinion.
acomjean 2y ago
Or Bette Midler singing for ford. She turned them down. They used a sound alike, she sued and won https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co.
- dewbrite 2y ago
  They used a sound-alike and had her sing one of her songs. I believe that's a different precedent, in that it's leveraging her fame. Imo Sky's voice is distinct enough from Scarlett, and it wasn't implied to _be_ her. Sam's "Her" tweet could be interpreted as such, but defending the tweet as the concept of "Her", rather than the voice itself, is.
  - sleepybrett 2y ago
    Does not the 'her' tweet give away the game. Aas you said, it was a midler impersator singing one of midlers songs. In this case they have a voice for their AI assistant/phone sex toy that is very much like the actress that played a famous ai assistant/phone sex toy. Even if he is taken as meaning the concept it's very very damning. If they had, instead, mimic'ed another famous actor's voice that hasn't played a robot/ai/whatever and used that would that really be any better though? Christopher Walken, say, or hell Bette Midler?
splatzone 2y ago
There’s a nice YouTube doc telling the story of this, and Tom Waits’ hatred of advertising - https://youtu.be/W7J01e-OIMA?si=57IJooNwg5oTfh62 https://youtu.be/W7J01e-OIMA?si=57IJooNwg5oTfh62

chii 2y ago

> get people to think it’s the real thing. but did openAI make any claims about whose voice this is? Just because a voice sounds similar or familiar, doesn't mean it's fraudulent.

tedivm 2y ago
Just read the top post of the thread you're responding to- > - Not receiving a response, OpenAI demos the product anyway, with Sam tweeting “her” in reference to Scarlett’s film.
- dzhiurgis 2y ago
  To me reference sounds more to towards omni than her voice
  - altairprime 2y ago
    What’s “omni”?
    - nickthegreek 2y ago
      GTP-4o is the new model, the o stands for Omni.
  - nickthegreek 2y ago
    That’s not a gamble they are willing to take to court of law or public opinion.

acomjean 2y ago

Or Bette Midler singing for ford. She turned them down. They used a sound alike, she sued and won https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co.

dewbrite 2y ago
They used a sound-alike and had her sing one of her songs. I believe that's a different precedent, in that it's leveraging her fame. Imo Sky's voice is distinct enough from Scarlett, and it wasn't implied to _be_ her. Sam's "Her" tweet could be interpreted as such, but defending the tweet as the concept of "Her", rather than the voice itself, is.
- sleepybrett 2y ago
  Does not the 'her' tweet give away the game. Aas you said, it was a midler impersator singing one of midlers songs. In this case they have a voice for their AI assistant/phone sex toy that is very much like the actress that played a famous ai assistant/phone sex toy. Even if he is taken as meaning the concept it's very very damning. If they had, instead, mimic'ed another famous actor's voice that hasn't played a robot/ai/whatever and used that would that really be any better though? Christopher Walken, say, or hell Bette Midler?

splatzone 2y ago

There’s a nice YouTube doc telling the story of this, and Tom Waits’ hatred of advertising - https://youtu.be/W7J01e-OIMA?si=57IJooNwg5oTfh62 https://youtu.be/W7J01e-OIMA?si=57IJooNwg5oTfh62