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The crew has been stuck on the ship this entire time - including when they were detonating explosives on the ship to free part of the debris from the bridge. Th

The crew has been stuck on the ship this entire time - including when they were detonating explosives on the ship to free part of the debris from the bridge. They had their personal phones confiscated, so they've lost access to their personal information and ability to contact friends and family at home[0]. They've finally been given replacement phones, but they still don't have their original phones back (or the personal data on it, including contact numbers). And while the ship is now docked, the crew is still stuck on board the ship. [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-69011124 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-69011124

stoperaticless 2y ago
What’s the reason for confiscation?
- dralley 2y ago
  I'm guessing it's about the investigation.
- joecool1029 2y ago
  Important to note: The NTSB so far has listed no probable cause (the preliminary report is linked somewhere else in this thread.) The phones were confiscated by the FBI, I'm not even sure how they are involved in such a request. The ship would be under maritime law so if anyone is handling the investigation and seizing devices wouldn't it be the CBP? Maybe someone on this site knows more about maritime law and how this works?
  - ano-ther 2y ago
    The FBI has a maritime security program and this is quite literally a hit to critical infrastructure. https://oig.justice.gov/reports/FBI/a0626/exec.htm https://oig.justice.gov/reports/FBI/a0626/exec.htm (2006)
- pvaldes 2y ago
  Not difficult to guess. Most probably, looking for possible connections with people that could (hypothetically) have reasons to have planned or pay them for a sabotage act. Places visited, times, conversations, a recent biography of the owners... Is all in the phones. They may find that nothing is suspicious, and this would be in fact a valid result to include, but it will worth a try. From the point of view of the phone owners, a problem is how to guarantee that the phones are not contaminated with fake data later. I assume that there are official protocols deployed to keep the chain of custody safe and clean.
- ungreased0675 2y ago
  Punishment for hitting the bridge. Same with keeping them onboard.
  - iamthirsty 2y ago
    Punishment or just containment post-large and very expensive accident that usually takes years to investigate?

stoperaticless 2y ago

What’s the reason for confiscation?

dralley 2y ago
I'm guessing it's about the investigation.
joecool1029 2y ago
Important to note: The NTSB so far has listed no probable cause (the preliminary report is linked somewhere else in this thread.) The phones were confiscated by the FBI, I'm not even sure how they are involved in such a request. The ship would be under maritime law so if anyone is handling the investigation and seizing devices wouldn't it be the CBP? Maybe someone on this site knows more about maritime law and how this works?
- ano-ther 2y ago
  The FBI has a maritime security program and this is quite literally a hit to critical infrastructure. https://oig.justice.gov/reports/FBI/a0626/exec.htm https://oig.justice.gov/reports/FBI/a0626/exec.htm (2006)
pvaldes 2y ago
Not difficult to guess. Most probably, looking for possible connections with people that could (hypothetically) have reasons to have planned or pay them for a sabotage act. Places visited, times, conversations, a recent biography of the owners... Is all in the phones. They may find that nothing is suspicious, and this would be in fact a valid result to include, but it will worth a try. From the point of view of the phone owners, a problem is how to guarantee that the phones are not contaminated with fake data later. I assume that there are official protocols deployed to keep the chain of custody safe and clean.
ungreased0675 2y ago
Punishment for hitting the bridge. Same with keeping them onboard.
- iamthirsty 2y ago
  Punishment or just containment post-large and very expensive accident that usually takes years to investigate?