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Scripts to build a trimmed-down Windows 11 image

29 points by adif_sgaid 2y ago

lionkor 2y ago
Reduce and patch it until it becomes POSIX compliant
- lenerdenator 2y ago
  IIRC the NT kernel used to be POSIX compliant but... y'know.
  - kimixa 2y ago
    POSIX is an api, not kernel interface, and the MS CRT still supports much of it. And there's stuff on top, like cygwin and mingw, if you need more.
mentos 2y ago
Was hoping classic paint would be restored too ha
- thot_experiment 2y ago
  https://files.catbox.moe/5eh16r.zip https://files.catbox.moe/5eh16r.zip enjoy! (and in case that scares you, there's also this) https://jspaint.app/ https://jspaint.app/
  - egeozcan 2y ago
    That web app has more than 3 undos, what an immense UX improvement!
Night_Thastus 2y ago
Well, at least this one is open source. The last couple of times scripts like this have popped up it's been just "trust me, bro!". As Windows has started to integrate more of its own services together, I'm curious what this will end up breaking. Obviously everything xbox related until you reinstall it.
- db48x 2y ago
  Which scripts were those? The Windows Ameliorated scripts are open source: https://git.ameliorated.info/explore/repos https://git.ameliorated.info/explore/repos
  - Night_Thastus 2y ago
    "Slim down windows 10/11" scripts have existed since each OS's release. Made by a variety of people over a variety of years. Most of them weren't open source and documented, many were just raw executables thrown around through MediaFire links or so on.
    - db48x 2y ago
      I only know of two, both open source.
      - Night_Thastus 2y ago
        This is just what I could find in a few minutes. Some are more privacy-focused, some are more de-bloat focused. Some add new features or enable new tweaks. Some are flexible, some are one-and-done. They're everywhere since Win 10 released. https://www.ntlite.com/ https://www.ntlite.com/ https://github.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater https://github.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater https://github.com/Disassembler0/Win10-Initial-Setup-Script/ https://github.com/Disassembler0/Win10-Initial-Setup-Script/ https://github.com/builtbybel/debotnet https://github.com/builtbybel/debotnet https://github.com/W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10 https://github.com/W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10 https://github.com/crazy-max/WindowsSpyBlocker https://github.com/crazy-max/WindowsSpyBlocker https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 https://www.w10privacy.de/english-home/ https://www.w10privacy.de/english-home/ https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil https://www.revi.cc/revios/download/?method=playbook https://www.revi.cc/revios/download/?method=playbook
EcommerceFlow 2y ago
Does something similar exist for Windows 10? After being on 11 at home, I see zero benefits over W10.
- babypuncher 2y ago
  The benefit is you will still get security updates next year.
  - antisthenes 2y ago
    Windows 10 LTSC IOT will get security updates for the next 8 years. And it's already slimmed down enough to be a decent daily driver, without having to bother with 3rd party scripts.
    - babypuncher 2y ago
      I had problems trying to run prior LTSC builds. They get security updates, but not feature updates. After a few years, some consumer software (games in particular) often start having problems because they are built assuming you run a consumer edition that is never more than a year or so behind.
      - antisthenes 2y ago
        > They get security updates, but not feature updates. Well, obviously that's a feature, not a bug. Seeing as how 95% of "new" MS features seem to be some kind of spyware or advertising. > After a few years, some consumer software (games in particular) often start having problems because they are built assuming you run a consumer edition that is never more than a year or so behind. Any games in particular? I've been running IOT LTSC for about 1.5 years now and have had 0 issues, including gaming. Any issues were related to having to update Nvidia/AMD drivers or C++/.NET runtime updates and not the OS itself.
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newprint 2y ago
Yesterday, I was trying to delete bunch of crap from my windows 10 setup, because windows is just chewing through HD space like nothing. Gigs of space are eaten by temp files, caches, backups....in most circumstances you can't even delete them. Windows is taking ~6GB and I don't even use them, apart from calculator.
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asveikau 2y ago
I haven't reviewed this particular repo, but I've seen a bunch of these "de-bloat" scripts that do sketchy things, including from people calling themselves "ntdev labs" before. Removing annoying built-in apps (malware?) is one thing. But removing it by bypassing ACLs on system files is another. You don't want to leave your Windows image in a non-supported state which might compromise future Windows security updates from working. Honestly I think a better answer is to not use Windows, but I'm aware that's not an option for some.

29 points by adif_sgaid 2y ago

lionkor 2y ago

Reduce and patch it until it becomes POSIX compliant

lenerdenator 2y ago
IIRC the NT kernel used to be POSIX compliant but... y'know.
- kimixa 2y ago
  POSIX is an api, not kernel interface, and the MS CRT still supports much of it. And there's stuff on top, like cygwin and mingw, if you need more.

mentos 2y ago

Was hoping classic paint would be restored too ha

thot_experiment 2y ago
https://files.catbox.moe/5eh16r.zip https://files.catbox.moe/5eh16r.zip enjoy! (and in case that scares you, there's also this) https://jspaint.app/ https://jspaint.app/
- egeozcan 2y ago
  That web app has more than 3 undos, what an immense UX improvement!

Night_Thastus 2y ago

Well, at least this one is open source. The last couple of times scripts like this have popped up it's been just "trust me, bro!". As Windows has started to integrate more of its own services together, I'm curious what this will end up breaking. Obviously everything xbox related until you reinstall it.

db48x 2y ago
Which scripts were those? The Windows Ameliorated scripts are open source: https://git.ameliorated.info/explore/repos https://git.ameliorated.info/explore/repos
- Night_Thastus 2y ago
  "Slim down windows 10/11" scripts have existed since each OS's release. Made by a variety of people over a variety of years. Most of them weren't open source and documented, many were just raw executables thrown around through MediaFire links or so on.
  - db48x 2y ago
    I only know of two, both open source.
    - Night_Thastus 2y ago
      This is just what I could find in a few minutes. Some are more privacy-focused, some are more de-bloat focused. Some add new features or enable new tweaks. Some are flexible, some are one-and-done. They're everywhere since Win 10 released. https://www.ntlite.com/ https://www.ntlite.com/ https://github.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater https://github.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater https://github.com/Disassembler0/Win10-Initial-Setup-Script/ https://github.com/Disassembler0/Win10-Initial-Setup-Script/ https://github.com/builtbybel/debotnet https://github.com/builtbybel/debotnet https://github.com/W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10 https://github.com/W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10 https://github.com/crazy-max/WindowsSpyBlocker https://github.com/crazy-max/WindowsSpyBlocker https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 https://www.w10privacy.de/english-home/ https://www.w10privacy.de/english-home/ https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil https://www.revi.cc/revios/download/?method=playbook https://www.revi.cc/revios/download/?method=playbook

EcommerceFlow 2y ago

Does something similar exist for Windows 10? After being on 11 at home, I see zero benefits over W10.

babypuncher 2y ago
The benefit is you will still get security updates next year.
- antisthenes 2y ago
  Windows 10 LTSC IOT will get security updates for the next 8 years. And it's already slimmed down enough to be a decent daily driver, without having to bother with 3rd party scripts.
  - babypuncher 2y ago
    I had problems trying to run prior LTSC builds. They get security updates, but not feature updates. After a few years, some consumer software (games in particular) often start having problems because they are built assuming you run a consumer edition that is never more than a year or so behind.
    - antisthenes 2y ago
      > They get security updates, but not feature updates. Well, obviously that's a feature, not a bug. Seeing as how 95% of "new" MS features seem to be some kind of spyware or advertising. > After a few years, some consumer software (games in particular) often start having problems because they are built assuming you run a consumer edition that is never more than a year or so behind. Any games in particular? I've been running IOT LTSC for about 1.5 years now and have had 0 issues, including gaming. Any issues were related to having to update Nvidia/AMD drivers or C++/.NET runtime updates and not the OS itself.
      - deleted 2y ago
        [deleted]

newprint 2y ago

Yesterday, I was trying to delete bunch of crap from my windows 10 setup, because windows is just chewing through HD space like nothing. Gigs of space are eaten by temp files, caches, backups....in most circumstances you can't even delete them. Windows is taking ~6GB and I don't even use them, apart from calculator.

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asveikau 2y ago

I haven't reviewed this particular repo, but I've seen a bunch of these "de-bloat" scripts that do sketchy things, including from people calling themselves "ntdev labs" before. Removing annoying built-in apps (malware?) is one thing. But removing it by bypassing ACLs on system files is another. You don't want to leave your Windows image in a non-supported state which might compromise future Windows security updates from working. Honestly I think a better answer is to not use Windows, but I'm aware that's not an option for some.