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Please, US doesn't need to prove anything w.r.t freedom vs. China.
by j0ba 2y ago
Please, US doesn't need to prove anything w.r.t freedom vs. China.
- Thiez 2y agoSo you're saying the USA is better and thus it never needs to be compared in any aspect related to 'freedom'? That's a nice way of never having to challenge your assumptions.
- j0ba 2y agoNo, I'm saying what I said in OP
- phone8675309 2y agoHoly fucking strawman, Batman!
- ok123456 2y agoIt's not a strawman. The US espouses freedom of speech, and TikTok is comparable to running a printing press. It also espouses a general freedom to own and run private enterprises. This ban runs against both of those.
- phone8675309 2y ago> It's not a strawman. It is absolutely a strawman: > A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction. Grandparent: Please, US doesn't need to prove anything w.r.t freedom vs. China. Parent: So you're saying the USA is better and thus it never needs to be compared in any aspect related to 'freedom'? Me: GP didn't say the USA never needs to be compared in any aspect related to freedom, they said _relative to China_ the US doesn't need to prove anything. It's objectively a strawman. That's separate from the issue of whether or not this infringes on the freedom of speech, but 1) freedom of speech in the US is not nor ever has been absolute with no limits and 2) this move absolutely deserves scrutiny.
- cscurmudgeon 2y agoHere you go. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices Enjoy the data.
- ok123456 2y agoActually, it does.
- kube-system 2y agoMeh, foreign tech companies still can't even operate in China. The only way even things like iCloud exist there is because Apple literally handed it over to be owned and operated by the Guizhou government.
- falleng0d 2y agoSorry but this is about China, the bar is that low.
- ok123456 2y agoNo. It's about whether or not we're hypocrites regarding freedom of the press and freedom of speech, as well as the overall freedom of business.