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Show HN: OpenOrb, a curated search engine for Atom and RSS feeds
Alternative search engines are neat, as are RSS feeds. OpenOrb is a self-hosted app which allows visitors to search over a list of blogs you love. If you put your 10 favourite blogs in there, it'll search just those blogs and not show you any sponsored content or machine-generated garbage (unless... you follow blogs written by machines?)
Personal RSS feed readers can usually do this sort of thing, but RSS readers aren’t meant to be shared, so you can think of the search engine as a 'curated feed list as a public service'.
I wrote a longer blog post about OpenOrb here: https://raphael.computer/blog/openorb-curated-search-engine/ https://raphael.computer/blog/openorb-curated-search-engine/
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- keepamovin 2y agoI wonder when RSS will experience its "Google Search in 1997" moment? Right now it's beginning to nibble at Yahoo Directory days
- tl 2y agoThat would be 2005 when Google Reader launched. RSS for people who didn't know what RSS was.
- keepamovin 2y agoNo, I mean: "Google" moment as in what Google originally was. Let me rephrase in edit my original comment to "Google Search" moment. Basically, when Google came on the scene in 1997, it blew away Yahoo Directory. Do I have my dates right? Hahaha :)
- cykros 2y agoRSS if anything is in decline, rather than its ascent, because of the fact that in many ways it offers access to content in a way that diminishes ad views. It's not impossible that it could come back from this state, and indeed, outside of this issue, there's nothing wrong with it as a system, and podcasts make heavy use of it. But it's worth being aware of this headwind.
- keepamovin 2y agoNo I totally know it's in ascent, that's my point! Haha! :) Hmm, how to express what I'm saying more clearly -- seems it's been missed? Haha! :) I mean, like RSS seems like where the web was in 1996 - on the ascent! - waiting for its "Google Search" moment, whereas these types of RSS curations in this product and others like it recently, a little bit like Yahoo Directory!
- pantulis 2y agoI think you are being slightly over enthusiastic here.
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- gbrindisi 2y agoI really like the idea! At some point I put up a miniflux instance and it has surprisingly been a breath of fresh air for my content consumption. What miniflux and my setup lacks is a way to retrieve stuff I read and this OpenOrb might fit the use case... I will try it out!
- freetonik 2y agoWhat do you mean by "retrieve stuff I read"?
- gbrindisi 2y agosometimes I stumble into stuff I’m sure I’ve already read something about in an article but if I didn’t bookmarked or made a note of it it’s very hard to find again (miniflux flushes content after a certain age)
- corney91 2y agoI've set the following in Miniflux to stop it deleting things: CLEANUP_ARCHIVE_READ_DAYS=-1 CLEANUP_ARCHIVE_UNREAD_DAYS=-1
- freetonik 2y agoAh, I see, thanks for the explanation! I'm asking because I'm working on a similar project, which allows to both search and save blog posts permanently.
- flir 2y agoSpeaking for me personally, I've always felt "search my history" should be implemented in the browser, not as an external tool. "Search and save blog posts" seems like a subset of the real problem.
- gen220 2y agoYou can set the age to arbitrary points in the past, if storage isn't a concern. I've actually found miniflux's search feature fairly solid for dredging up old stuff I've read!
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- renegat0x0 2y agoYou can find many RSS feeds, links in my repository https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database/tree/main/sources https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database/tree/ma... It contains also domain lists, that include tag indicating, if it is personal, or not.
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- marginalia_nu 2y agoTangentially on this note, if anyone is interested, I can produce a list of every RSS feed known to the marginalia search crawler. It's a pretty noisy list, but any thing I can do to help the spread, discovery and adoption of RSS I'm happy to help with so just let me know. I a tool in place to export this data to help power the experimental RSS preview feature[1], but haven't had the inspiration to do much with that yet. [1] e.g. https://search.marginalia.nu/site/jvns.ca https://search.marginalia.nu/site/jvns.ca --edit-- Ok so there was interest. Give me a moment, I'll need to run an extraction script. Check back in a few hours or bookmark https://downloads.marginalia.nu/exports/ https://downloads.marginalia.nu/exports/
- djoldman 2y agoI think the community would be interested in list and you'd get a lot of downloads if you offered it up.
- petercooper 2y agoI would be very keen to have access to that list and to, ideally, have a go at cleaning it up and producing a topical subset for broader use in certain fields I'm interested in (e.g. all the "developer blogs", say). I offer an OPML file of several hundred engineering/dev related blogs at https://engineeringblogs.xyz/ https://engineeringblogs.xyz/ but I'm starting to think a little bigger.
- lowercasename 2y agoThat would be _so_ cool! What an amazing resource that would be.
- hactually 2y agoI started a submission based platform ( bao.social but not currently resolving) as a side project because I missed the accessibility for RSS. would be keen on the list or even just connecting with you and OP
- marginalia_nu 2y agoFeel free to shoot me an email if you want to have a chat, bounce ideas or whatever. That goes for other people as well ;-) I'm a bit busy with finalizing my grant-funded work in the immediate future so reply times may be a bit slow, but such is life.
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- yakkomajuri 2y agoSomeone compiled this a while ago which is a pretty good starter list for content discovery: https://github.com/outcoldman/hackernews-personal-blogs https://github.com/outcoldman/hackernews-personal-blogs I've imported most of them into https://app.recessfeed.com/ https://app.recessfeed.com/ and found some nice ones to follow through that
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- freetonik 2y agoNice! I was thinking about the same kind of tool a while back, and developed a community-based curated feed reader with full-text search. It's not public yet (sign ups are behind an invitation code), but search works for guests: https://minifeed.net/global https://minifeed.net/global
- lowercasename 2y agoThis is super nice, and it looks like it's going to have some really great features, well beyond OpenOrb's! Excited to keep an eye on this.
- freetonik 2y agoThanks for the kind words! I'm still a bit hesitant to make a "Show HN" at this time, but there are indeed potentially interesting implemented and planned features, like: - full text search across all blogs (implemented) and across blogs user subscribed to (planned) - subscribing to users to see the blogs they follow in your "friendfeed" (implemented) - favorites, with contents saved to permanent storage (implemented) - custom lists of blogs and posts (planned) - comments (not sure about this one yet)
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- lbhdc 2y agoThis is a cool idea. When I search for "history" it returned only technical articles, and heavily favored dan luus website. Are technical blogs the primary focus?
- marginalia_nu 2y agoGiven that techy people have a strong disposition to have a blog, more so than other demographics, there's an implicit bias toward the technical within the blogosphere, especially in its diminished state.
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- freetonik 2y agoI believe the instance currently has very few blogs indexed: https://openorb.idiot.sh/feeds https://openorb.idiot.sh/feeds But you can deploy your own instance and add any blogs you want.
- tiffanyh 2y agoFor a brief moment, I thought this was related to https://OrbStack.dev https://OrbStack.dev
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- toastal 2y agoGreat to it’s hosted on a free software forge too not locking in contributions! Not sure I always agree that feeds should have the full post tho. This not only (obviously) bloats the size of the feed, but there are valid reasons to want to drive users to your site--especially if you have demos or you write about code & have your code blocks syntax highlighted (statically, never do this with a JavaScript) as it provides a better reading experience. You can put styling technically in Atom/RSS but even then, a lot of readers won’t be applying the styling. That said, I definitely appreciate the full post if your site is full of trackers, ads, marketing garbage or other bloat since I can skip the site. Is this some site engineers giving us the nod on a better UX? I read a gridiron football news site & boy does that feed become take a site from unusable to pleasant (good photography).
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- fabianholzer 2y agoAs a feed consumer I am always happy if a feed contains the full content, but I am not sure if the feed must also include all articles that a site ever published. That would basically make the feed a serialized version of the whole website (which is indeed what a few feeds that I subscribe to do by including sections that are common on personal sites like about/contact/now as items of their feed - but those are the minority). That would actually be fine as long as the archive is small or at certain size, when the feed is paginated. But I am under the impression that most feed generators do not have pagination in mind, also I don't know how well the individual aggregators and readers handle it on the consuming end.
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- INGSOCIALITE 2y agobut does this filter out the rss feeds that are just a headline and then a "click here to read the whole story" link? that's what killed rss it wasn't google reader going away, it was the ad-weaponizing of the feeds themselves
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- beaugunderson 2y agoI really like the idea of feed/entry search but it seems to not return very relevant results... if I search for "software defined radio" with or without quotes I get lots of results that don't have those terms in them
- b1nj0y 2y agoIf you'd like to read RSS in you new tab: https://tabhub.github.io/ https://tabhub.github.io/
- JohnSSS1978 2y ago've been thinking that I needed one of these, but you've already made it happen. That's really great.
- derekzhouzhen 2y ago> If you put your 10 favourite blogs in there, it'll search just those blogs... 10 feeds will not give you much recall. I have 50K+ feeds, 1M+ posts, and it just starts to give somewhat respectable results.
- throwup238 2y agoHave you dumped your feed list anywhere?
- derekzhouzhen 2y agoNo. but you can try the search here: https://roastidio.us/search https://roastidio.us/search