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I'm surprised not to see the article mention the previous report[1] about the three men who were sentenced to death, the killing of one, and the decades long pr

I'm surprised not to see the article mention the previous report[1] about the three men who were sentenced to death, the killing of one, and the decades long prison sentences for others over their opposition to this project. Karmic justice requires this project to be crushed by the sand that these arrogant dictators tried to impose their steel dick over. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/03/un-rights-experts-denounce-planned-saudi-executions https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/03/un-rights-expe...

neglesaks 2y ago
Indeed, there is a reason for the saying "what comes around, goes around". In this case, a prestige project that the Saudis try to market themselves to the world as modern and green and ambitious, but they still are quite authoritarian in the end.
- chipdart 2y ago
  > Indeed, there is a reason for the saying "what comes around, goes around". Perhaps it's just me, but I don't see scaling down a project as karmic retribution for murder.
  - neglesaks 2y ago
    Who says that this scaling-down is the last word in the matter?
    - yard2010 2y ago
      That is what is convenient about Karma: it's not over until you win
    - chipdart 2y ago
      So what exactly is coming around then? Is someone's life not going absolutely perfect a sign of bad karma?
Someone 2y ago
FTA: “However, it has long attracted scepticism and criticism, not least after the reported execution of several members of the Howeitat tribe who had protested over plans to construct on their ancestral lands.” I also see a link to https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/may/04/its-being-built-on-our-blood-the-true-cost-of-saudi-arabia-5bn-mega-city-neom https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/may/04/i... to the left of that text on that page
Supermancho 2y ago
> I'm surprised not to see the article mention the previous report[1] about the three men who were sentenced to death, the killing of one, and the decades long prison sentences for others It's a small number of people, who are opposing known tyrants, foolishly. The ruling class can kill and enslave, at will. The indentured servitude imposed on thousands of immigrants who built and maintain it, is much more concerning imo. https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/country-studies/saudi-arabia/ https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/country-studie... It's a barbaric country. US support has created another blemish on US history. Was it worth it to ensure safe seas to enable global commercialism, which kept most of the world stable for decades? I do not, but I'll never be in charge either way.
- blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
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  - sshine 2y ago
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    - AndyMcConachie 2y ago
      > Hating jews never went out of fashion in the muslim world. Anti-semitism is a European invention that had to be imported to the middle east. One could argue it never went out of fashion anywhere.
      - TylerE 2y ago
        There’s literal anti-semetism in the Old Testament, which predates anything that can vaguely be called Europe.
        hgomersall 2y ago
        I'm puzzled by this... Isn't the old testament essentially the Torah? (This is an honest question, in case that needs clarifying)
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neglesaks 2y ago

Indeed, there is a reason for the saying "what comes around, goes around". In this case, a prestige project that the Saudis try to market themselves to the world as modern and green and ambitious, but they still are quite authoritarian in the end.

chipdart 2y ago
> Indeed, there is a reason for the saying "what comes around, goes around". Perhaps it's just me, but I don't see scaling down a project as karmic retribution for murder.
- neglesaks 2y ago
  Who says that this scaling-down is the last word in the matter?
  - yard2010 2y ago
    That is what is convenient about Karma: it's not over until you win
  - chipdart 2y ago
    So what exactly is coming around then? Is someone's life not going absolutely perfect a sign of bad karma?

Someone 2y ago

FTA: “However, it has long attracted scepticism and criticism, not least after the reported execution of several members of the Howeitat tribe who had protested over plans to construct on their ancestral lands.” I also see a link to https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/may/04/its-being-built-on-our-blood-the-true-cost-of-saudi-arabia-5bn-mega-city-neom https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/may/04/i... to the left of that text on that page

Supermancho 2y ago

> I'm surprised not to see the article mention the previous report[1] about the three men who were sentenced to death, the killing of one, and the decades long prison sentences for others It's a small number of people, who are opposing known tyrants, foolishly. The ruling class can kill and enslave, at will. The indentured servitude imposed on thousands of immigrants who built and maintain it, is much more concerning imo. https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/country-studies/saudi-arabia/ https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/country-studie... It's a barbaric country. US support has created another blemish on US history. Was it worth it to ensure safe seas to enable global commercialism, which kept most of the world stable for decades? I do not, but I'll never be in charge either way.

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
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- sshine 2y ago
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  - AndyMcConachie 2y ago
    > Hating jews never went out of fashion in the muslim world. Anti-semitism is a European invention that had to be imported to the middle east. One could argue it never went out of fashion anywhere.
    - TylerE 2y ago
      There’s literal anti-semetism in the Old Testament, which predates anything that can vaguely be called Europe.
      - hgomersall 2y ago
        I'm puzzled by this... Isn't the old testament essentially the Torah? (This is an honest question, in case that needs clarifying)

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