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That's some super steep pricing

by NuSkooler 2y ago

rileyphone 2y ago
$10 a month?
- mhb 2y ago
  $54/year for 3600 searches. https://kagi.com/settings?p=billing_plan&plan=individual&period=annual https://kagi.com/settings?p=billing_plan&plan=individual&per...
  - LeoPanthera 2y ago
    So 10 a day? I do way more than 10 searches a day.
    - Operyl 2y ago
      Or unlimited for $10/mo or $108/yr.
- nine_k 2y ago
  If you're in the Silicon Valley and spend most of your day on the Internet, $10 for superb search is a no-brainer. If you're a student / postgrad somewhere in the US, it still likely feels worth the price, even though $10 is already not below the threshold of observability. If you are, say, somewhere in Thailand, or Uzbekistan, or Botswana, the $10/mo become unironically noticeable: not prohibitive, but you really want to get a lot of value in exchange. And basically anywhere in the world, if you're a kid, and mom and dad would not buy Kagi for you, you're out of luck.
rfarley04 2y ago
If you hate Google's obnoxious deference to paid affiliate placements, $10 is nothing
metadat 2y ago
Do you want to be the product? If not, pay the provider enough to stave off that whole "biz dev" mining process as long as possible..
kelnos 2y ago
It only feels that way because search has been free essentially forever. But think -- really think -- about how much value you get out of search. Like, if you didn't have search, would you even be able to use the web? I think $10/mo for something I critically rely on several tens of times a day is a bargain! Certainly it might be hard to sell search at $10/mo when people can get by at $0/mo. But that isn't the same thing as saying it's steep.
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- Freedom2 2y ago
  > Like, if you didn't have search, would you even be able to use the web? It was fairly common to use the web before people used Google, or even Altavista.
  - nine_k 2y ago
    The web had such a size that a catalog like Yahoo or Moz could cover a significant part of it. (I remember how Netscape was released, and how cool it was compared to Mosaic.)
- NuSkooler 2y ago
  No, it feels that way because music is a monthly service, any media is a monthly service cost, backups are monthly service cost, news are a monthly service cost, VPN is a monthly service cost, internet is of course a monthly service cost, password management is a monthly service cost, anti-malware/AV is a monthly service cost, ...this list just goes on and on. And they want $10/month for unlimited searches full well and knowing $5/300 isn't even a reasonable bracket for half of us. It's steep, and we're all swimming in in these costs. $5/unlimited would be more reasonable, but it still piles on all these SaaS costs that everyone now uses. Gotta grow grow grow grow you know. Capitalism is great!
  - Ageodene 2y ago
    > $5/unlimited would be more reasonable Hell, I'd even take $5/600. 300 is just ridiculously low. I like the service, mind you, but really can't justify paying $10/m (+ tax now) for it. I should have jumped on the Neeva train when I had the chance. It was 50€/y. The results weren't as good as Kagi's, though. But anyway, Neeva's dead now.
PheonixPharts 2y ago
I'm always surprised how cheap software engineers can be when purchasing products created by other software engineers, specifically designed around their needs. No matter where you live on earth, if you're a software engineer $10/month is nothing. I seriously don't think you would notice if someone was quietly stealing $10 a month from you. And yet that $10 a month would pay for a product that nearly all of us in this community wish existed. But the biggest irony for me, is that all software engineers get paid what they do because someone on the other side of their business is willing to pay a lot more for what ever service you're ultimately helping to build. If everyone was this cheap about software, software engineers would be making minimum wage.

That's some super steep pricing

rileyphone 2y ago

$10 a month?

mhb 2y ago
$54/year for 3600 searches. https://kagi.com/settings?p=billing_plan&plan=individual&period=annual https://kagi.com/settings?p=billing_plan&plan=individual&per...
- LeoPanthera 2y ago
  So 10 a day? I do way more than 10 searches a day.
  - Operyl 2y ago
    Or unlimited for $10/mo or $108/yr.
nine_k 2y ago
If you're in the Silicon Valley and spend most of your day on the Internet, $10 for superb search is a no-brainer. If you're a student / postgrad somewhere in the US, it still likely feels worth the price, even though $10 is already not below the threshold of observability. If you are, say, somewhere in Thailand, or Uzbekistan, or Botswana, the $10/mo become unironically noticeable: not prohibitive, but you really want to get a lot of value in exchange. And basically anywhere in the world, if you're a kid, and mom and dad would not buy Kagi for you, you're out of luck.

rfarley04 2y ago

If you hate Google's obnoxious deference to paid affiliate placements, $10 is nothing

metadat 2y ago

Do you want to be the product? If not, pay the provider enough to stave off that whole "biz dev" mining process as long as possible..

kelnos 2y ago

It only feels that way because search has been free essentially forever. But think -- really think -- about how much value you get out of search. Like, if you didn't have search, would you even be able to use the web? I think $10/mo for something I critically rely on several tens of times a day is a bargain! Certainly it might be hard to sell search at $10/mo when people can get by at $0/mo. But that isn't the same thing as saying it's steep.

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Freedom2 2y ago
> Like, if you didn't have search, would you even be able to use the web? It was fairly common to use the web before people used Google, or even Altavista.
- nine_k 2y ago
  The web had such a size that a catalog like Yahoo or Moz could cover a significant part of it. (I remember how Netscape was released, and how cool it was compared to Mosaic.)
NuSkooler 2y ago
No, it feels that way because music is a monthly service, any media is a monthly service cost, backups are monthly service cost, news are a monthly service cost, VPN is a monthly service cost, internet is of course a monthly service cost, password management is a monthly service cost, anti-malware/AV is a monthly service cost, ...this list just goes on and on. And they want $10/month for unlimited searches full well and knowing $5/300 isn't even a reasonable bracket for half of us. It's steep, and we're all swimming in in these costs. $5/unlimited would be more reasonable, but it still piles on all these SaaS costs that everyone now uses. Gotta grow grow grow grow you know. Capitalism is great!
- Ageodene 2y ago
  > $5/unlimited would be more reasonable Hell, I'd even take $5/600. 300 is just ridiculously low. I like the service, mind you, but really can't justify paying $10/m (+ tax now) for it. I should have jumped on the Neeva train when I had the chance. It was 50€/y. The results weren't as good as Kagi's, though. But anyway, Neeva's dead now.

PheonixPharts 2y ago

I'm always surprised how cheap software engineers can be when purchasing products created by other software engineers, specifically designed around their needs. No matter where you live on earth, if you're a software engineer $10/month is nothing. I seriously don't think you would notice if someone was quietly stealing $10 a month from you. And yet that $10 a month would pay for a product that nearly all of us in this community wish existed. But the biggest irony for me, is that all software engineers get paid what they do because someone on the other side of their business is willing to pay a lot more for what ever service you're ultimately helping to build. If everyone was this cheap about software, software engineers would be making minimum wage.