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Yes! There are alternatives to Github, people! Diversify! Switch to Sourcehut or Gitea or Gitlab or even DIY with Gitolite. git is a decentralized peer-to-peer

Yes! There are alternatives to Github, people! Diversify! Switch to Sourcehut or Gitea or Gitlab or even DIY with Gitolite. git is a decentralized peer-to-peer system, we shouldn't let Microsoft have a monopoly on its use.

Dylan16807 2y ago
That works if you have multiple mirrors configured for each package. Just adding variety reduces the chance of having all the important repos up at the same time.
- 1attice 2y ago
  > Just adding variety reduces the chance of having all the important repos up at the same time. this, sadly, is correct, and the solution you propose is also correct. The only other option would be for the NixOS Foundation to mirror the git repo of _every single important package_, and I know they're already struggling with the prohibitive cloud costs of hosting just the build objects. :/
  - kelnos 2y ago
    They could mirror them on gitlab.com if they wanted to. It wouldn't even be that difficult to set up and automate.
sunshowers 2y ago
I think this attitude really underrates the network effects of GitHub. I personally am okay making an account on another forge to submit a bug report or patch, but most people aren't. And so I keep my repos on GitHub. I do plan to soon set up mirroring to another service though. I haven't found a great zero-effort solution to mirror repos from an entire organization though, including ones that are created after mirroring was initially set up. Do you know of any tools which have that functionality? (If not I might write my own at some point.)
- Repulsion9513 2y ago
  You shouldn't need to make an account to report a bug, honestly.
  - xyzzy123 2y ago
    Issue spam & harassment become a problem at scale.
- anon25783 2y ago
  You could host bug tracking separately from git, with Bugzilla perhaps?
  - sunshowers 2y ago
    (a) I spent many years on the Mozilla bugzilla, and it's far too complicated (b) you still have to create an account there
orbital-decay 2y ago
Great, now you have many points of failure spread over different hosters. The basic fact they're SPFs haven't changed.

Dylan16807 2y ago

That works if you have multiple mirrors configured for each package. Just adding variety reduces the chance of having all the important repos up at the same time.

1attice 2y ago
> Just adding variety reduces the chance of having all the important repos up at the same time. this, sadly, is correct, and the solution you propose is also correct. The only other option would be for the NixOS Foundation to mirror the git repo of _every single important package_, and I know they're already struggling with the prohibitive cloud costs of hosting just the build objects. :/
- kelnos 2y ago
  They could mirror them on gitlab.com if they wanted to. It wouldn't even be that difficult to set up and automate.

sunshowers 2y ago

I think this attitude really underrates the network effects of GitHub. I personally am okay making an account on another forge to submit a bug report or patch, but most people aren't. And so I keep my repos on GitHub. I do plan to soon set up mirroring to another service though. I haven't found a great zero-effort solution to mirror repos from an entire organization though, including ones that are created after mirroring was initially set up. Do you know of any tools which have that functionality? (If not I might write my own at some point.)

Repulsion9513 2y ago
You shouldn't need to make an account to report a bug, honestly.
- xyzzy123 2y ago
  Issue spam & harassment become a problem at scale.
anon25783 2y ago
You could host bug tracking separately from git, with Bugzilla perhaps?
- sunshowers 2y ago
  (a) I spent many years on the Mozilla bugzilla, and it's far too complicated (b) you still have to create an account there

orbital-decay 2y ago

Great, now you have many points of failure spread over different hosters. The basic fact they're SPFs haven't changed.