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This is pretty muchy experience as well. AI is a fantastic helper, and it will make devs more productive, but it is not going to put all software devs out of wo

This is pretty muchy experience as well. AI is a fantastic helper, and it will make devs more productive, but it is not going to put all software devs out of work. Probably a tiny fraction of them at best. However, with recent grads flooding into IT for remote work and high pay, they could be hurting as AI reduces the need for entry level roles. Entry level was already saturated, and now it will be more saturated, with AI reducing the need for jobs.

godelski 2y ago
Yeah I remember seeing someone try to measure it and they saw improvements in productivity on all experience levels but they found that it helped novices the most and experts only a little. But this is actually something I worry about. The best way to become an expert is to do things the hard way. I've talk a lot of people linux over the years and only 3 have really learned it. Every time I teach people I give them two options: the easy way, which is just how to use it and use the gui and a bit of terminal or the hard way, which hand them the arch wiki, tell them to come back after their third failed attempt to install. Those 3 people came back, but usually did more than 3 installs, but had all been successful at some point. All 3 mentioned they understood why and then we could really talk about how to use linux, make scripts (and that scripts aren't aliases...), and so on. All 3 still are terminally terminal, years later. The thing is that humans (and even machines) learn by struggling, getting things wrong, and learning from mistakes. The struggle is part of the learning process. I've found this both in myself and whenever I teach anything, that if I just feed someone the answer (or look it up and nothing more for myself) they (I) don't end up remembering, they don't end up playing, they don't end learning how to learn.
- octopusRex 2y ago
  But, will it matter? :-(
  - godelski 2y ago
    Will what matter?

godelski 2y ago

Yeah I remember seeing someone try to measure it and they saw improvements in productivity on all experience levels but they found that it helped novices the most and experts only a little. But this is actually something I worry about. The best way to become an expert is to do things the hard way. I've talk a lot of people linux over the years and only 3 have really learned it. Every time I teach people I give them two options: the easy way, which is just how to use it and use the gui and a bit of terminal or the hard way, which hand them the arch wiki, tell them to come back after their third failed attempt to install. Those 3 people came back, but usually did more than 3 installs, but had all been successful at some point. All 3 mentioned they understood why and then we could really talk about how to use linux, make scripts (and that scripts aren't aliases...), and so on. All 3 still are terminally terminal, years later. The thing is that humans (and even machines) learn by struggling, getting things wrong, and learning from mistakes. The struggle is part of the learning process. I've found this both in myself and whenever I teach anything, that if I just feed someone the answer (or look it up and nothing more for myself) they (I) don't end up remembering, they don't end up playing, they don't end learning how to learn.

octopusRex 2y ago
But, will it matter? :-(
- godelski 2y ago
  Will what matter?