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>For example, people hate on Stalin a lot, but his 5-year plans were so wildly productive and successful you mean productive as in Holodomor?
by i_like_waiting 3y ago
>For example, people hate on Stalin a lot, but his 5-year plans were so wildly productive and successful
you mean productive as in Holodomor?
- smnplk 3y agoYea, it's insane OP went from a really great comment at the top to this. Weird.
- headmelted 2y agoI mean, Op started right off the bat with the idea that op would love to live in a communist society. By all means Op can say that they agree with some Marxist ideas, but when the real human costs of that model are very well proven out by now it should be a red flag if someone doesn’t acknowledge those costs from the jump. I’m not surprised this quickly went to suggesting Stalin wasn’t so bad.
- MSFT_Edging 2y agoChurchill purposefully starved the people of Bengal yet he is still revered. The Bengal famine had a similar death toll to the holodomor, yet one is ignored and the other used as a constant point to discredit. You literally proved my point, One can't say "Stalin's 5-year plans were overall successful and copied by other countries" without "but holodomor". Yet you can say all you want about Churchill or Britain's policies without a smug "Bengal famine" appearing.
- i_like_waiting 2y agoBro you cannot just call famine "smug", nobody here is honoring Churchill as well, so stop using whataboutisms, there is tons of cases of leaders that didn't kill milions of people with their policies