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Getting pretty huge clown face painting meme vibes.

jajko 3y ago
A childish move, unexpected from such a company like apple especially with timing. Which probably boils down to one overzealous middle/higher manager trying too hard to be a good boi for superiors to get extra bonus... I don't think it panned as expected. Otherwise apple corporate culture is quite rotten.
- lapcat 3y ago
  The Epic blog post shows emails with Phil Schiller and Craig Federighi. This was all approved by upper management.
  - maxwell 3y ago
    Those are the two that seem like pure poison.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 3y ago
  There is no way such a decision was not approved by the upper echelon of management. That has both legal ramifications and monetary for a huge client.
- littlestymaar 3y ago
  > A childish move, unexpected from such a company like apple especially with timing. Especially when you add the failed PWA move before, they're starting to look pretty bad.
  - ssnri 3y ago
    I just like nice computers and don’t really care about the inter-corporate mudslinging. Now not paying an equal share of tax, on the other hand, is criticism I can join in on.
  - evilduck 3y ago
    Serious question, what PWAs are worth using on Android that don't work on iOS?
    - rchaud 3y ago
      It's not about whether it's worth using, it's about having the mere option of building an app without the overhead of paying developer fees to Apple.
      - evilduck 3y ago
        So it's not about PWAs at all then, it's just a handy complaint?
        deleted 3y ago
        [deleted]
    - spogbiper 3y ago
      I don't think we can really know the potential of PWA, since most developers aren't going to put effort into PWAs if they won't work for a big chunk of the market. Apple is effectively strangling the technology on all platforms by refusing to support it on theirs.
      - evilduck 3y ago
        If PWAs had any merit at all, why would anyone build a native Android app today where all these magic features are inhibited? What's actually missing that's stopping this from working?
        beeboobaa 3y ago
        > What's actually missing that's stopping this from working? Proper support on all platforms. No point working on PWAs that have janky tooling (reason: see previous sentence) when they're only going to work decently on Android devices anyway.
lern_too_spel 3y ago
It was mind-blowing to me that in previous threads, Apple fanatics were defending Apple, saying that Epic had broken the developer agreement. It hadn't. Schiller clearly stated that he banned Epic because he didn't believe Sweeney when Sweeney literally said that he would abide by the agreement. I don't see this behavior with any other company.

A childish move, unexpected from such a company like apple especially with timing. Which probably boils down to one overzealous middle/higher manager trying too hard to be a good boi for superiors to get extra bonus... I don't think it panned as expected. Otherwise apple corporate culture is quite rotten.

lapcat 3y ago
The Epic blog post shows emails with Phil Schiller and Craig Federighi. This was all approved by upper management.
- maxwell 3y ago
  Those are the two that seem like pure poison.
0cf8612b2e1e 3y ago
There is no way such a decision was not approved by the upper echelon of management. That has both legal ramifications and monetary for a huge client.
littlestymaar 3y ago
> A childish move, unexpected from such a company like apple especially with timing. Especially when you add the failed PWA move before, they're starting to look pretty bad.
- ssnri 3y ago
  I just like nice computers and don’t really care about the inter-corporate mudslinging. Now not paying an equal share of tax, on the other hand, is criticism I can join in on.
- evilduck 3y ago
  Serious question, what PWAs are worth using on Android that don't work on iOS?
  - rchaud 3y ago
    It's not about whether it's worth using, it's about having the mere option of building an app without the overhead of paying developer fees to Apple.
    - evilduck 3y ago
      So it's not about PWAs at all then, it's just a handy complaint?
      - deleted 3y ago
        [deleted]
  - spogbiper 3y ago
    I don't think we can really know the potential of PWA, since most developers aren't going to put effort into PWAs if they won't work for a big chunk of the market. Apple is effectively strangling the technology on all platforms by refusing to support it on theirs.
    - evilduck 3y ago
      If PWAs had any merit at all, why would anyone build a native Android app today where all these magic features are inhibited? What's actually missing that's stopping this from working?
      - beeboobaa 3y ago
        > What's actually missing that's stopping this from working? Proper support on all platforms. No point working on PWAs that have janky tooling (reason: see previous sentence) when they're only going to work decently on Android devices anyway.

lern_too_spel 3y ago

It was mind-blowing to me that in previous threads, Apple fanatics were defending Apple, saying that Epic had broken the developer agreement. It hadn't. Schiller clearly stated that he banned Epic because he didn't believe Sweeney when Sweeney literally said that he would abide by the agreement. I don't see this behavior with any other company.