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TikTok should be banned until Facebook and Google are available in China.

simpletone 3y ago
Nope. Facebook and Google would be available in china if they agreed to chinese laws. Tiktok is following american laws.
- matthewdgreen 3y ago
  Isn't this article about Congress changing US laws?
- mannerheim 3y ago
  Good news: The law to force divestiture of TikTok is an American law.
  - simpletone 3y ago
    We are somewhat agreed. It's insane that any country should allow foreign control over their media. And hopefully, china and the rest of the world will follow up with similar laws. Not sure why facebook, google, netflix, youtube, etc are allowed in most countries. All important companies should be run locally. It's funny how the divestiture law is just 'nationalizing' foreign corporations. Something we shamed cuba, et al about. But I'm okay with it.
    - mannerheim 3y ago
      The law doesn't say Americans must buy it. Just that it can't be owned by a 'foreign adversary'.
    - ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
      I think the other poster is pointing out that China already did this, and this law itself is the "follow-up with similar laws" response to their actions.
      - simpletone 3y ago
        > I think the other poster is pointing out that China already did this No china didn't. That's my point. You and the poster's assertion is an outright propaganda lie that's been repeated ad nauseum. China has the same laws that the EU has and the US has. Where citizens' data is stored and controlled locally. Tiktok is storing american data within the US. If china enacts similar 'tiktok' laws, then apple, microsoft and every tech company operating in china would have to sell its entire chinese operations to chinese entities. I hope china, india, EU and the rest of the world takes the tiktok bill as a blueprint and enacts similar laws.
        cscurmudgeon 3y ago
        > Tiktok is storing american data within the US. Even TikTok's employees say that is false. > Video-sharing app says it has walled off American data, but employees say data is still sometimes shared with its China-based parent https://www.wsj.com/tech/tiktok-pledged-to-protect-u-s-data-1-5-billion-later-its-still-struggling-cbccf203 https://www.wsj.com/tech/tiktok-pledged-to-protect-u-s-data-...
- cscurmudgeon 3y ago
  And the House committee is part of American law.

Nope. Facebook and Google would be available in china if they agreed to chinese laws. Tiktok is following american laws.

matthewdgreen 3y ago
Isn't this article about Congress changing US laws?
mannerheim 3y ago
Good news: The law to force divestiture of TikTok is an American law.
- simpletone 3y ago
  We are somewhat agreed. It's insane that any country should allow foreign control over their media. And hopefully, china and the rest of the world will follow up with similar laws. Not sure why facebook, google, netflix, youtube, etc are allowed in most countries. All important companies should be run locally. It's funny how the divestiture law is just 'nationalizing' foreign corporations. Something we shamed cuba, et al about. But I'm okay with it.
  - mannerheim 3y ago
    The law doesn't say Americans must buy it. Just that it can't be owned by a 'foreign adversary'.
  - ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
    I think the other poster is pointing out that China already did this, and this law itself is the "follow-up with similar laws" response to their actions.
    - simpletone 3y ago
      > I think the other poster is pointing out that China already did this No china didn't. That's my point. You and the poster's assertion is an outright propaganda lie that's been repeated ad nauseum. China has the same laws that the EU has and the US has. Where citizens' data is stored and controlled locally. Tiktok is storing american data within the US. If china enacts similar 'tiktok' laws, then apple, microsoft and every tech company operating in china would have to sell its entire chinese operations to chinese entities. I hope china, india, EU and the rest of the world takes the tiktok bill as a blueprint and enacts similar laws.
      - cscurmudgeon 3y ago
        > Tiktok is storing american data within the US. Even TikTok's employees say that is false. > Video-sharing app says it has walled off American data, but employees say data is still sometimes shared with its China-based parent https://www.wsj.com/tech/tiktok-pledged-to-protect-u-s-data-1-5-billion-later-its-still-struggling-cbccf203 https://www.wsj.com/tech/tiktok-pledged-to-protect-u-s-data-...
cscurmudgeon 3y ago
And the House committee is part of American law.