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I just finished the last episode of The Talk Show podcast, where John Gruber says that Apple doesn’t hold a grudge and is only doing things because they make bu

I just finished the last episode of The Talk Show podcast, where John Gruber says that Apple doesn’t hold a grudge and is only doing things because they make business sense. He said that because Apple approved Epic’s account and that they would be allowed their own App Store. I already that it was a bad take, but this shows it.

davely 3y ago
I find that Gruber occasionally has some interesting insight but it’s often hard to take him seriously these days — he’s effectively an unofficial PR outlet for Apple. (Fun fact: he co-created Markdown with Aaron Swartz) Edit: Swartz not Schwartz
- kccqzy 3y ago
  It's a sad evolution. Gruber's blog is entitled Daring Fireball and in his early blogging days in the '00s he was in fact pretty daring and posted a lot of criticisms of Apple. Over time he had so thoroughly assimilated himself into the Apple way of thinking that he seldom notices whatever Apple is doing wrong.
  - favorited 3y ago
    > posted a lot of criticisms of Apple His criticisms were all about how the NeXT folks were ruining Apple with their mach-o binaries, file paths & extensions, etc. You'd have thought that Avie Tevanian ran over his dog or something.
  - tibbydudeza 3y ago
    He now gets exclusive 1 on 1 interviews with Apple execs and the blog is a full time job. You got to shill to pay the bills.
  - munificent 3y ago
    Really? I've always considered Gruber to be an Apple fanboy. He might write criticisms, but they read to me like a Deadhead penning an essay on why Aoxomoxoa isn't as good as Terrapin Station or something. Ultimately, Gruber knows his audience is Apple enthusiasts and his material comes from being given access by Apple.
- harrisi 3y ago
  Swartz. Aaron Schwartz was in Mighty Ducks and Heavyweights.
  - davely 3y ago
    Thank you. That’s an embarrassing mistake.
- kemayo 3y ago
  He's pretty critical of them in some areas. Mostly in developer-relations these days -- he doesn't like the anti-steering App Store rules, and Apple's general "we provided the successful platform; your apps contribute nothing to that" attitude.
DHPersonal 3y ago
John Gruber @gruber@mastodon.social ‪@stroughtonsmith @macrumors So much for my theory that Apple was making nice with Epic.‬ https://mastodon.social/@gruber/112050165133240095 https://mastodon.social/@gruber/112050165133240095
threeseed 3y ago
There is no point having rules and contracts if you aren't going to enforce them. It is inarguable that Epic broke the terms of the contract. They could've simply done what Spotify and others did and lobby governments whilst honouring the terms of the agreement that they voluntarily chose to sign. Instead Epic chose to be petty in order to prove a point. Is Spotify banned ? No. And they are 100x a competitor to Apple than Epic is.
Keyframe 3y ago
Apple doesn’t hold a grudge Nvidia
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davely 3y ago

I find that Gruber occasionally has some interesting insight but it’s often hard to take him seriously these days — he’s effectively an unofficial PR outlet for Apple. (Fun fact: he co-created Markdown with Aaron Swartz) Edit: Swartz not Schwartz

kccqzy 3y ago
It's a sad evolution. Gruber's blog is entitled Daring Fireball and in his early blogging days in the '00s he was in fact pretty daring and posted a lot of criticisms of Apple. Over time he had so thoroughly assimilated himself into the Apple way of thinking that he seldom notices whatever Apple is doing wrong.
- favorited 3y ago
  > posted a lot of criticisms of Apple His criticisms were all about how the NeXT folks were ruining Apple with their mach-o binaries, file paths & extensions, etc. You'd have thought that Avie Tevanian ran over his dog or something.
- tibbydudeza 3y ago
  He now gets exclusive 1 on 1 interviews with Apple execs and the blog is a full time job. You got to shill to pay the bills.
- munificent 3y ago
  Really? I've always considered Gruber to be an Apple fanboy. He might write criticisms, but they read to me like a Deadhead penning an essay on why Aoxomoxoa isn't as good as Terrapin Station or something. Ultimately, Gruber knows his audience is Apple enthusiasts and his material comes from being given access by Apple.
harrisi 3y ago
Swartz. Aaron Schwartz was in Mighty Ducks and Heavyweights.
- davely 3y ago
  Thank you. That’s an embarrassing mistake.
kemayo 3y ago
He's pretty critical of them in some areas. Mostly in developer-relations these days -- he doesn't like the anti-steering App Store rules, and Apple's general "we provided the successful platform; your apps contribute nothing to that" attitude.

DHPersonal 3y ago

John Gruber @gruber@mastodon.social ‪@stroughtonsmith @macrumors So much for my theory that Apple was making nice with Epic.‬ https://mastodon.social/@gruber/112050165133240095 https://mastodon.social/@gruber/112050165133240095

threeseed 3y ago

There is no point having rules and contracts if you aren't going to enforce them. It is inarguable that Epic broke the terms of the contract. They could've simply done what Spotify and others did and lobby governments whilst honouring the terms of the agreement that they voluntarily chose to sign. Instead Epic chose to be petty in order to prove a point. Is Spotify banned ? No. And they are 100x a competitor to Apple than Epic is.

Keyframe 3y ago

Apple doesn’t hold a grudge Nvidia

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