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> Apple said one of the reasons they terminated our developer account only a few weeks after approving it was because we publicly criticized their proposed DMA

> Apple said one of the reasons they terminated our developer account only a few weeks after approving it was because we publicly criticized their proposed DMA compliance plan.

andersa 3y ago
Not a valid reason to terminate it.
- bunbun69 3y ago
  Are you believing a “trust me bro” comment?
  - archagon 3y ago
    Say what you want about Tim Sweeney, but he has integrity.
    - twoodfin 3y ago
      In what sense did the submarine delivery of functionality clearly in violation of their contract with Apple—the inspiring incident for all this drama—represent integrity?
      - archagon 3y ago
        It was very obviously intended as a launch pad for the lawsuit, not a genuine attempt to skirt App Store rules.
        twoodfin 3y ago
        If my contractual partners were to violate agreements I had entered into in good faith in order to gain PR advantage in a pre-planned legal dispute, I wouldn't tend to think of them as displaying integrity.
        archagon 3y ago
        Yes, from the perspective of a corporation being sued for acting unethically, Sweeny lacks integrity. I’m not sure that reflects poorly on Sweeny’s character.
  - Jensson 3y ago
    Apple says they did it for no reason other than that they could, not because Epic violated anything. > “Epic’s egregious breach of its contractual obligations to Apple led courts to determine that Apple has the right to terminate ‘any or all of Epic Games’ wholly owned subsidiaries, affiliates, and/or other entities under Epic Games’ control at any time and at Apple’s sole discretion.’ In light of Epic’s past and ongoing behavior, Apple chose to exercise that right.” https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/06/apple-terminates-epic-games-developer-account-calling-it-a-threat-to-the-ios-ecosystem/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/06/apple-terminates-epic-game...
    - lsaferite 3y ago
      > no reason other than that they could That's statement is wrong given the quote you posted right after. They clearly state it's due to perceived breaches of contractual obligations. FWIW, I have no horse in the race, just pointing out what I would assuming is a misapprehension in your statement.
      - Jensson 3y ago
        That quote didn't show the whole part, I realized it looks a bit strange out of context there. Here I'll break it down with some more: > Schiller suggests that Epic’s “colorful criticism” combined with its past actions “strongly suggests that Epic Sweden does not intend to follow the rules.” So, the main transgression here was "colorful criticism", that is the ongoing behavior by epic, nothing about safety or contractual breeches. If they believed Epic would break contract they would have banned them 5 years ago when that breech happened, not now, nobody can argue that a 5 year old breech of contract on another account actually warrants a random ban of this account today.

> Apple said one of the reasons they terminated our developer account only a few weeks after approving it was because we publicly criticized their proposed DMA compliance plan.

andersa 3y ago

Not a valid reason to terminate it.

bunbun69 3y ago
Are you believing a “trust me bro” comment?
- archagon 3y ago
  Say what you want about Tim Sweeney, but he has integrity.
  - twoodfin 3y ago
    In what sense did the submarine delivery of functionality clearly in violation of their contract with Apple—the inspiring incident for all this drama—represent integrity?
    - archagon 3y ago
      It was very obviously intended as a launch pad for the lawsuit, not a genuine attempt to skirt App Store rules.
      - twoodfin 3y ago
        If my contractual partners were to violate agreements I had entered into in good faith in order to gain PR advantage in a pre-planned legal dispute, I wouldn't tend to think of them as displaying integrity.
        archagon 3y ago
        Yes, from the perspective of a corporation being sued for acting unethically, Sweeny lacks integrity. I’m not sure that reflects poorly on Sweeny’s character.
- Jensson 3y ago
  Apple says they did it for no reason other than that they could, not because Epic violated anything. > “Epic’s egregious breach of its contractual obligations to Apple led courts to determine that Apple has the right to terminate ‘any or all of Epic Games’ wholly owned subsidiaries, affiliates, and/or other entities under Epic Games’ control at any time and at Apple’s sole discretion.’ In light of Epic’s past and ongoing behavior, Apple chose to exercise that right.” https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/06/apple-terminates-epic-games-developer-account-calling-it-a-threat-to-the-ios-ecosystem/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/06/apple-terminates-epic-game...
  - lsaferite 3y ago
    > no reason other than that they could That's statement is wrong given the quote you posted right after. They clearly state it's due to perceived breaches of contractual obligations. FWIW, I have no horse in the race, just pointing out what I would assuming is a misapprehension in your statement.
    - Jensson 3y ago
      That quote didn't show the whole part, I realized it looks a bit strange out of context there. Here I'll break it down with some more: > Schiller suggests that Epic’s “colorful criticism” combined with its past actions “strongly suggests that Epic Sweden does not intend to follow the rules.” So, the main transgression here was "colorful criticism", that is the ongoing behavior by epic, nothing about safety or contractual breeches. If they believed Epic would break contract they would have banned them 5 years ago when that breech happened, not now, nobody can argue that a 5 year old breech of contract on another account actually warrants a random ban of this account today.