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I've converted a handful of some of the least computer tech heavy people to Linux. This was years ago. The final few nails of Microsoft's coffin are being nail

I've converted a handful of some of the least computer tech heavy people to Linux. This was years ago. The final few nails of Microsoft's coffin are being nailed as we speak. Not only because they are just fundamentally bad at innovation, but because they also sold out the United States to China. Billy boy is scared, and he should be.

forinti 3y ago
I managed to convince my mother-in-law to use Linux and drop Windows. But it seems that convincing the network guys at work is harder than convincing a retiree. Apparently it's easier to administer a Windows network than a Linux one.
- layer8 3y ago
  There is no good replacement for Active Directory, by a large margin. It’s the single biggest factor that keeps Windows alive in the enterprise.
  - tonoto 3y ago
    Was that really a good thing? Active Directory in enterprise environments keep the hackers happy
    - trealira 3y ago
      I didn't know what the Active Directory is until now, although I found its Wikipedia page. Is it known for being insecure?
      - layer8 3y ago
        Not really, in 2024. GP is presenting a caricature.
  - bhewes 3y ago
    In addition to Windows, I manage Ubuntu, MacOS and iOS via Azure Active Directory. I like Azure.
  - sillywalk 3y ago
    Out of curiosity does Linux, or rather directory/desktop software running on Linux, have something similar to Windows Group Policy?
    - firesteelrain 3y ago
      Yes, however it is sub standard and hard to use. Look at IdP
- josephcsible 3y ago
  > Apparently it's easier to administer a Windows network than a Linux one. Not really. I suspect that there's a fallacy similar to the one in <https://thedailywtf.com/articles/an-obvious-requirement https://thedailywtf.com/articles/an-obvious-requirement> going on. (The most relevant comment: 'Ah, so the user is using "obvious" to mean "familiar."').
SketchySeaBeast 3y ago
Is converting the least tech literate an issue? I assume some of the easier distros are pretty much plug and play now, and if your only goal is to browse Facebook and print off recipes from an already set up printer pretty much anything can do that easily. But these people would probably be happy with an iPad if their iPhone wasn't cutting it. I think the big middle of the population that's the problem, people who are tech literate enough to do some things, but not willing to relearn the wheel. They can use microsoft office, but don't want to have to relearn a new file structure. Those are the people who probably will have the biggest issue, and there's a lot of them. That's office workers, computer gamers, all those people. Even the pretty tech literate people who know how to do things in Windows but don't care to relearn it all in Linux.
- logtempo 3y ago
  you have a valid point. I always had Macintosh machine and then Linux, discovered at the university. I think I fall in the case of tech literate people who know how to do things in Linux but don't care to relearn it all in Windows. So I guess it's true for the opposite too ahah
realusername 3y ago
While I do agree that nowadays users with a basic computer usage would be much better served by a modern Linux distribution compared to Windows, it won't happen due to the power of defaults. Windows is preinstalled and that will be enough, no matter how badly it degrades.

forinti 3y ago

I managed to convince my mother-in-law to use Linux and drop Windows. But it seems that convincing the network guys at work is harder than convincing a retiree. Apparently it's easier to administer a Windows network than a Linux one.

layer8 3y ago
There is no good replacement for Active Directory, by a large margin. It’s the single biggest factor that keeps Windows alive in the enterprise.
- tonoto 3y ago
  Was that really a good thing? Active Directory in enterprise environments keep the hackers happy
  - trealira 3y ago
    I didn't know what the Active Directory is until now, although I found its Wikipedia page. Is it known for being insecure?
    - layer8 3y ago
      Not really, in 2024. GP is presenting a caricature.
- bhewes 3y ago
  In addition to Windows, I manage Ubuntu, MacOS and iOS via Azure Active Directory. I like Azure.
- sillywalk 3y ago
  Out of curiosity does Linux, or rather directory/desktop software running on Linux, have something similar to Windows Group Policy?
  - firesteelrain 3y ago
    Yes, however it is sub standard and hard to use. Look at IdP
josephcsible 3y ago
> Apparently it's easier to administer a Windows network than a Linux one. Not really. I suspect that there's a fallacy similar to the one in <https://thedailywtf.com/articles/an-obvious-requirement https://thedailywtf.com/articles/an-obvious-requirement> going on. (The most relevant comment: 'Ah, so the user is using "obvious" to mean "familiar."').

SketchySeaBeast 3y ago

Is converting the least tech literate an issue? I assume some of the easier distros are pretty much plug and play now, and if your only goal is to browse Facebook and print off recipes from an already set up printer pretty much anything can do that easily. But these people would probably be happy with an iPad if their iPhone wasn't cutting it. I think the big middle of the population that's the problem, people who are tech literate enough to do some things, but not willing to relearn the wheel. They can use microsoft office, but don't want to have to relearn a new file structure. Those are the people who probably will have the biggest issue, and there's a lot of them. That's office workers, computer gamers, all those people. Even the pretty tech literate people who know how to do things in Windows but don't care to relearn it all in Linux.

logtempo 3y ago
you have a valid point. I always had Macintosh machine and then Linux, discovered at the university. I think I fall in the case of tech literate people who know how to do things in Linux but don't care to relearn it all in Windows. So I guess it's true for the opposite too ahah

realusername 3y ago

While I do agree that nowadays users with a basic computer usage would be much better served by a modern Linux distribution compared to Windows, it won't happen due to the power of defaults. Windows is preinstalled and that will be enough, no matter how badly it degrades.