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I wonder how the EU will respond when high-ranking politicians fall victim to third-party app store scams or experience significant data leaks exploited through

by monkin 3y ago

I wonder how the EU will respond when high-ranking politicians fall victim to third-party app store scams or experience significant data leaks exploited through other browsers. Given that they're not particularly tech-savvy, it raises questions about their preparedness for such situations, and who they will blame for it.

matsemann 3y ago
You don't have to wonder, as Android has had this model for years. So that should help you predict. Hint: not an issue.
- monkin 3y ago
  Never seen high-profile politician with an Android device.
  - Hizonner 3y ago
    Well, admittedly that's pretty good evidence for your position that high-ranking politicians are stupid. But it also shows that high-ranking politicians won't stray outside Apple's little world even if given the opportunity, so there's no problem to begin with.
- SigmundA 3y ago
  Seems like an issue, such that they are testing ways to disable certain side loaded apps: https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/07/google-starts-blocking-users-from-sideloading-certain-apps-in-singapore/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/07/google-starts-blocking-use...
jmull 3y ago
(1) Why assume Apple's browser is more secure than the likely alternatives, Chrome and Firefox? (2) Those high-ranking politicians almost certainly already make heavy use platforms that allow "side-loading" and alternative browsers. That means the attack surface doesn't change much from where it is right now.
Hizonner 3y ago
So Apple needs total control over the entire world, because high-ranking politicians are too stupid to take care of themselves? I mean, if they had the choice not to buy Apple, they might buy something that they're unprepared to handle, so what you're saying necessarily implies that they have no non-Apple choices at all, or at least no choices that aren't just as locked down as Apple and run in just as hidebound a way. With all sincerity, fuck you and fuck everybody who thinks like you.
- monkin 3y ago
  > With all sincerity, fuck you and fuck everybody who thinks like you. Thank you.
smoldesu 3y ago
It already happened. Except, well, the blood's on Apple's hands: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware) I wonder how Apple will respond when high-ranking politicians acknowledge that security is a personal responsibility that Apple was unfit to provide in the first place. That will be a fun discussion, albeit further down the proverbial line.
asadotzler 3y ago
Like Pegasus that infected all those iPhones of world leaders?

by monkin 3y ago

matsemann 3y ago

You don't have to wonder, as Android has had this model for years. So that should help you predict. Hint: not an issue.

monkin 3y ago
Never seen high-profile politician with an Android device.
- Hizonner 3y ago
  Well, admittedly that's pretty good evidence for your position that high-ranking politicians are stupid. But it also shows that high-ranking politicians won't stray outside Apple's little world even if given the opportunity, so there's no problem to begin with.
SigmundA 3y ago
Seems like an issue, such that they are testing ways to disable certain side loaded apps: https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/07/google-starts-blocking-users-from-sideloading-certain-apps-in-singapore/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/07/google-starts-blocking-use...

jmull 3y ago

(1) Why assume Apple's browser is more secure than the likely alternatives, Chrome and Firefox? (2) Those high-ranking politicians almost certainly already make heavy use platforms that allow "side-loading" and alternative browsers. That means the attack surface doesn't change much from where it is right now.

Hizonner 3y ago

So Apple needs total control over the entire world, because high-ranking politicians are too stupid to take care of themselves? I mean, if they had the choice not to buy Apple, they might buy something that they're unprepared to handle, so what you're saying necessarily implies that they have no non-Apple choices at all, or at least no choices that aren't just as locked down as Apple and run in just as hidebound a way. With all sincerity, fuck you and fuck everybody who thinks like you.

monkin 3y ago
> With all sincerity, fuck you and fuck everybody who thinks like you. Thank you.

smoldesu 3y ago

It already happened. Except, well, the blood's on Apple's hands: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware) I wonder how Apple will respond when high-ranking politicians acknowledge that security is a personal responsibility that Apple was unfit to provide in the first place. That will be a fun discussion, albeit further down the proverbial line.

asadotzler 3y ago

Like Pegasus that infected all those iPhones of world leaders?