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> Return the stone Cannot be stated enough. I hate gyms that turn a blind eye to people not replacing weights. I was recently visiting Orlando and went to a so

> Return the stone Cannot be stated enough. I hate gyms that turn a blind eye to people not replacing weights. I was recently visiting Orlando and went to a sort-of-well-known gym there (owner is a professional body builder) and was amazed at how many plates were on the floor. The equipment was as high-end as you could get (the best Rogue/HS) but plates EVERYWHERE to trip over. It was pretty disappointing. Leave the rack in better shape than when you found it. That's a metaphor for life.

MOARDONGZPLZ 3y ago
I have a gym nearby that’s very expensive and focused on lifting. I am always so impressed by how the weights are always where they should be. The culture is amazing. In addition to people having respect for this, the weights there are colored which helps spot it visually. So the 45lb is blue, 55lb is orange, 35lb is yellow, 25lb is green. In my very anecdotal opinion this and well labeled racks go a long way here. Compare another gym I use when I’m working from home: weights everywhere, no weight where it should be, and the weights themselves are inconsistently sized even at the same weight. It frustrates me to no end to have to pick through weights to find the ones I need for a lift.
- stefs 3y ago
  the colored plates come from olympic weightlifting. 0.5kg / 5kg white 1kg / 10kg green 1.5kg / 15kg yellow 2kg / 20kg blue 2.5kg / 25kg red makes it easier to count the weight on the bar quickly (the metal collars are also 2.5kg each). the green 10kg plate is the first full size plate (ignoring youth/beginner plates).
  - brodouevencode 3y ago
    I love oly weights but there's something deeply nostalgic and satisfying about metal Yorks clanging each rep.
  - daniel_reetz 3y ago
    resistor color codes, but for mass
    - shrubble 3y ago
      Another word for it is "resistance training", so...
- jerlam 3y ago
  That's the big difference between a "weightlifting gym", the first gym; and a "gym with weights", the second gym. The people going to the first go regularly and treat it like home, and the owners have to charge accordingly to buy and maintain good equipment, making it a place where the users choose to go. In the second, the preferred customer is someone that pays for a long contract but never goes to the gym and there's no point it making it other than surface-level nice. Then again the second gym costs half or a third of the first gym.
spaceheater 3y ago
Cool website and notion, but, I mean, it's a fucking stone. There are like a billion of them, just laying around, older than all humans. I wish my life was this carefree. I will start my own stone lifting club, everyone is welcome, lift till you drop.
- _yb2s 3y ago
  A lot of these stones are important cultural and historic artifacts with hundreds of years of history and culture behind them, and people traveling long distances to see and lift them. Destroying it is irreversible since each stone is unique. It’s fine if you go out in the forest and drop a random stone, but don’t travel to Iceland or Scotland and destroy a stone with hundreds of years of history.
- cfeduke 3y ago
  We pour concrete to make Atlas stones for specific weights knowing that these artificial stones will eventually be ruined by accident by the people who have a new interest in stone lifting. We also collect natural stones which may get ruined by mistake so people in the club can get used to lifting irregular shapes. But when it comes to the historical stones, all the prep work above is so these stones are not ruined. It's a privilege to try to lift a stone that Irish or Scottish men would lift to become huscarls for their lord and breaking one out of carelessness is a loss for everyone in this hobby.
stronglikedan 3y ago
> gyms that turn a blind eye to people not replacing weights They almost all do, because calling people out will lose you more customers than you'll lose from patrons being annoyed by the practice. It's just good business to ignore it and make the employees clean up at closing time.
- brodouevencode 3y ago
  This is true in almost all of the commercial gyms I've ever been to. In the more specialized gyms I've never seen this problem until this particular occasion.
  - lazide 3y ago
    In some cases, the customers are interested in paying for a place that will remind them (a degree of accountability). Think 'japanese school kids clean their school'. I'm guessing those places will also have exceptionally polite and motivated customers, but may be overly structured and difficult to do oddball things in.
wrycoder 3y ago
A cheap 45# plate with square edges lying flat on a concrete floor is quite challenging for ordinary (or older) mortals to pick up that first inch. So, please rack ‘em or at least leave them leaning.
maxglute 3y ago
Extra annoying when people half ass clean up, i.e. stack plates on wrong pins, makes cleaning up for others even harder. The only weight storage I've seen people reliably use (and not well) are bumper racks on the ground, but it gets people to do something since it's already on the ground in the first place.
theragra 3y ago
I don't understand, honestly. Never seen this in any gym in my country in Europe (which is poor). How is the difference so big?
- brodouevencode 3y ago
  Yeah I don't know. I think there's a level of narcissism that accompanies this tendency.
  - lazide 3y ago
    Narcissism is a tangential trait, but yeah. It's about how customers were conditioned as children, and self selection of customers + how they deal with it. Similar to littering. If people were taught/shown that it's okay to litter, most will litter. If people were taught/shown that it's not okay to litter, most will have various strategies re: litter. If they learned they could not litter in the first place and be 'good' and get benefits for it, they will probably do that. (they got praised appropriately for good behavior, and when they did bad behavior they got caught early, or had no excuses anyone would believe, and couldn't get away with lying). If they grew up around a bunch of litterers and hated the people they grew up around for whatever reason, they will probably compulsively not litter even if no one cares - and pick fights with litterers. Or litter and hate themselves (which also correlates with NPD). If they learned they could litter, and if caught could (successfully) pick it up and apologize, they will probably do that. If they learned they could litter, and if caught could pretend they didn't know what was going on, or that it was wrong, pick it up, and then continue doing it, they will probably do that. If they learned they could litter, and if caught they could pretend they couldn't figure out how to pick up litter, and someone else would pick it up for them, they will probably do that. If they learned they could litter, and if caught they could successfully lie about it/blame someone else/get someone else to take the blame/gaslight people (that's not litter!), that's narcissism in many cases. If it's NPD, they'll also probably attack anyone who calls them out, as a survival mechanism, just maybe not directly. Someone could also be a psychopath/sociopath in some cases, with different predicted results if they get caught or think there is someone who could get them in trouble if caught - like being directly attacked if you confront them about it, or being sabotaged/machiavellian'd out, getting themselves appointed onto a litter fine enforcing crew, etc.
berkes 3y ago
> Leave the rack in better shape than when you found it. That's a metaphor for life. And applicable to many areas. E.g. the famous book "refactoring" by Martin Fowler hinges on this idea. Where we refactor a little bit, every time we visit a class, function or file.

MOARDONGZPLZ 3y ago

I have a gym nearby that’s very expensive and focused on lifting. I am always so impressed by how the weights are always where they should be. The culture is amazing. In addition to people having respect for this, the weights there are colored which helps spot it visually. So the 45lb is blue, 55lb is orange, 35lb is yellow, 25lb is green. In my very anecdotal opinion this and well labeled racks go a long way here. Compare another gym I use when I’m working from home: weights everywhere, no weight where it should be, and the weights themselves are inconsistently sized even at the same weight. It frustrates me to no end to have to pick through weights to find the ones I need for a lift.

stefs 3y ago
the colored plates come from olympic weightlifting. 0.5kg / 5kg white 1kg / 10kg green 1.5kg / 15kg yellow 2kg / 20kg blue 2.5kg / 25kg red makes it easier to count the weight on the bar quickly (the metal collars are also 2.5kg each). the green 10kg plate is the first full size plate (ignoring youth/beginner plates).
- brodouevencode 3y ago
  I love oly weights but there's something deeply nostalgic and satisfying about metal Yorks clanging each rep.
- daniel_reetz 3y ago
  resistor color codes, but for mass
  - shrubble 3y ago
    Another word for it is "resistance training", so...
jerlam 3y ago
That's the big difference between a "weightlifting gym", the first gym; and a "gym with weights", the second gym. The people going to the first go regularly and treat it like home, and the owners have to charge accordingly to buy and maintain good equipment, making it a place where the users choose to go. In the second, the preferred customer is someone that pays for a long contract but never goes to the gym and there's no point it making it other than surface-level nice. Then again the second gym costs half or a third of the first gym.

spaceheater 3y ago

Cool website and notion, but, I mean, it's a fucking stone. There are like a billion of them, just laying around, older than all humans. I wish my life was this carefree. I will start my own stone lifting club, everyone is welcome, lift till you drop.

_yb2s 3y ago
A lot of these stones are important cultural and historic artifacts with hundreds of years of history and culture behind them, and people traveling long distances to see and lift them. Destroying it is irreversible since each stone is unique. It’s fine if you go out in the forest and drop a random stone, but don’t travel to Iceland or Scotland and destroy a stone with hundreds of years of history.
cfeduke 3y ago
We pour concrete to make Atlas stones for specific weights knowing that these artificial stones will eventually be ruined by accident by the people who have a new interest in stone lifting. We also collect natural stones which may get ruined by mistake so people in the club can get used to lifting irregular shapes. But when it comes to the historical stones, all the prep work above is so these stones are not ruined. It's a privilege to try to lift a stone that Irish or Scottish men would lift to become huscarls for their lord and breaking one out of carelessness is a loss for everyone in this hobby.

stronglikedan 3y ago

> gyms that turn a blind eye to people not replacing weights They almost all do, because calling people out will lose you more customers than you'll lose from patrons being annoyed by the practice. It's just good business to ignore it and make the employees clean up at closing time.

brodouevencode 3y ago
This is true in almost all of the commercial gyms I've ever been to. In the more specialized gyms I've never seen this problem until this particular occasion.
- lazide 3y ago
  In some cases, the customers are interested in paying for a place that will remind them (a degree of accountability). Think 'japanese school kids clean their school'. I'm guessing those places will also have exceptionally polite and motivated customers, but may be overly structured and difficult to do oddball things in.

wrycoder 3y ago

A cheap 45# plate with square edges lying flat on a concrete floor is quite challenging for ordinary (or older) mortals to pick up that first inch. So, please rack ‘em or at least leave them leaning.

maxglute 3y ago

Extra annoying when people half ass clean up, i.e. stack plates on wrong pins, makes cleaning up for others even harder. The only weight storage I've seen people reliably use (and not well) are bumper racks on the ground, but it gets people to do something since it's already on the ground in the first place.

theragra 3y ago

I don't understand, honestly. Never seen this in any gym in my country in Europe (which is poor). How is the difference so big?

brodouevencode 3y ago
Yeah I don't know. I think there's a level of narcissism that accompanies this tendency.
- lazide 3y ago
  Narcissism is a tangential trait, but yeah. It's about how customers were conditioned as children, and self selection of customers + how they deal with it. Similar to littering. If people were taught/shown that it's okay to litter, most will litter. If people were taught/shown that it's not okay to litter, most will have various strategies re: litter. If they learned they could not litter in the first place and be 'good' and get benefits for it, they will probably do that. (they got praised appropriately for good behavior, and when they did bad behavior they got caught early, or had no excuses anyone would believe, and couldn't get away with lying). If they grew up around a bunch of litterers and hated the people they grew up around for whatever reason, they will probably compulsively not litter even if no one cares - and pick fights with litterers. Or litter and hate themselves (which also correlates with NPD). If they learned they could litter, and if caught could (successfully) pick it up and apologize, they will probably do that. If they learned they could litter, and if caught could pretend they didn't know what was going on, or that it was wrong, pick it up, and then continue doing it, they will probably do that. If they learned they could litter, and if caught they could pretend they couldn't figure out how to pick up litter, and someone else would pick it up for them, they will probably do that. If they learned they could litter, and if caught they could successfully lie about it/blame someone else/get someone else to take the blame/gaslight people (that's not litter!), that's narcissism in many cases. If it's NPD, they'll also probably attack anyone who calls them out, as a survival mechanism, just maybe not directly. Someone could also be a psychopath/sociopath in some cases, with different predicted results if they get caught or think there is someone who could get them in trouble if caught - like being directly attacked if you confront them about it, or being sabotaged/machiavellian'd out, getting themselves appointed onto a litter fine enforcing crew, etc.

berkes 3y ago

> Leave the rack in better shape than when you found it. That's a metaphor for life. And applicable to many areas. E.g. the famous book "refactoring" by Martin Fowler hinges on this idea. Where we refactor a little bit, every time we visit a class, function or file.