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I broke IKEA (2023)
- bowsamic 3y agoThis feels extremely legally risky EDIT: I'm getting downvoted. I think people have gone to prison for a lot less than this, at least in the US, please be careful and playfulness is not a legal defense
- MSFT_Edging 3y agoYou're not wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if someone at Ikea got mad and pulled up some laws from the phreaking days.
- sidewndr46 3y agoYou're correct. At a minimum this would be a federal crime under the CFAA if you are in the US.
- Karellen 3y agoI wonder if it makes a difference that Ikea called them? If you call someone and yell at them to go fuck themselves, there's a pretty good case for that being harassment. But if someone calls you and you tell them to go fuck themselves, well, that's a different story. Similarly, people who initiate dodgy requests to web servers are clearly up to no good. But if you're a web admin and happen to host a zip bomb at `/wp-admin`, only serving it out to people who specifically ask to be sent whatever happens to reside there - even though you've never advertised that URL's existence - is it really your fault if they can't handle the resource they contacted you and asked for?
- pizzalife 3y agoLet's say someone is using a buggy version of curl. Is it legally okay to set up a web server that exploits the vulnerability when someone tries to fetch from you?
- isoprophlex 3y agoThat Windows alert sound in between the glitching binary-dump-as-audio sounds was just too funny.
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- pavel_lishin 3y agoI'd love to know what actually happened back there.
- throwanem 3y agoI'd love to know how that PBX is set up.
- 0xC0ncord 3y agoI was thinking the same thing! I don't get spam calls often but when I do I really want to punish them for wasting my time.
- throwanem 3y agoI mean I already mute and mash till the line drops when they do come in, but they may not continue doing so at a low enough rate to keep that feasible, and boringly mechanical but necessary tasks are always prime candidates for automation in any case.
- ClearAndPresent 3y agoI don't have the time to set up Asterisk but this story inspired me to generate a collection of handy random DTMF tones that could semi-automate a mute and mash approach. Enjoy. https://we.tl/t-IHXSHQ6FU3 https://we.tl/t-IHXSHQ6FU3
- Geezus_42 3y agoJolly Rodger Telephone service has worked wonderfully for me.
- gffrd 3y agoI'm on the floor just listening to the sample calls. <heavy breathing> "Can you tell more about how … uh, how account holder services can help me? And by the way, do you have any tips for growing tomatoes? I've been trying to grow them in my garden but the just won't COOPERATE."
- buffington 3y agoFrom a comment on the blog post: > iirc it's generated from a script in asterisk, with the delay and tone durations set "short" (I think it was the minimum EIA/TIA DTMF mark/space numbers, not sure.) > My phone system was Google Voice, through an SIP bridge with Obihai (now defunct/discontinued). Asterisk then made the SIP connection and rang my other phones, a Lucent Partner ACS for my landlines, cellphones, ATAs and forwarding numbers, also over SIP. > Most of the hardware was lost in the housefire last year. This recording was from early-mid 2020 or so. https://cohost.org/sirocyl/post/2891449-i-broke-ikea#comment-4f432d10-0638-474f-8716-5bb4fa2189ed https://cohost.org/sirocyl/post/2891449-i-broke-ikea#comment...
- iAMkenough 3y agoBrilliant. Thank you for sharing.
- jakedata 3y ago...and I hope you've learned to sanitize your DTMF inputs
- baby_souffle 3y agoIs it too late to ret-con the name of john draper / captain crunch to bobby dials?
- jasonjayr 3y agoLittle Bobby Tables strikes again!
- Crosseye_Jack 3y agoGuess he grew up and got given a phone as a birthday/christmas gift!
- bandergirl 3y agoI always sanitized my DTF inputs, as my last tests failed.
- Severian 3y agoHaha, awesome. Would be good to get the uncompressed audio, I bet you could decode that binary stream into bytes.
- volemo 3y agoThe recording has got to be compressed on the voice machine itself, so no hope in getting the clean version — it (most likely) doesn’t exist. :(
- twothamendment 3y agoLong ago I got a Psion Series 5. One feature was that it could dial a phone number (output the DTMF) for you. Messing around I've day I realized a contact could have a very long phone number. This was also back in the day when answering machines existed and many had a 2 digit code you could punch in to get into the menu from the outside line. My contact called Answering Machine had a very long phone number that got me into more than one answering machine. Once in, it was fun to change their outgoing message. One friend was convinced that I must have climbed the back of his apartment building to get in the open 3rd story window to change the message. That would have been cool, but a string of DTMF was much easier!
- Fnoord 3y agoI remember there was a KDE application for KDE 1.44 allowing the same. It was called Kphreak, or something like that. This was end 90s.
- hibikir 3y agoBack when international phone calls were a real thing, messing with answering machines that had default settings was a typical fraud vector. People would change the message to say 'I accept' a couple dozen times. Then, they'd lace a collect call with a third party payer, pointed at said answering machine... which accepted the charges. Just not best done from one's home phone, as sufficient charges pointing to the same number would risk attention.
- berkes 3y agoI don't understand. A collect call (in The Netherlands) would just move the costs of the call to the reciever. Why is it beneficial to call an answering machine and have its owners pay for it?
- vermilingua 3y agoPresumably a collect call that connects to a premium number, a service offered by some providers that allows collecting fees for receiving calls (dial-to-enter competitions and info services)
- skykooler 3y agoI read the text first, then listened to the audio, and was shocked at how good that transcription is.
- buffington 3y agoI know! I thought all the jibberish was just to be silly, but no, it visually looks like the wave forms of the audio.
- wackget 3y agoWebsite doesn't like it if you block third-party content (using uMatrix). It loads and then disappears a few seconds later.
- Dwedit 3y agoWorking fine here with uMatrix (actually nuTensor), are you auto-blocking the first party content too?
- BlueTemplar 3y agoWorks fine here.
- pmontra 3y agoWorks for me. I enabled the 1st party and cohost.org rows plus the css and images columns. Maybe it's because of another addon?
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- wrs 3y agoAs someone who’s had some incidents with DSP code, the end of the recording sounds like it may be playing some part of memory that isn’t an audio buffer. I wonder if there’s actually a “DTMF injection” possibility here…
- jensenbox 3y agoThere may be secrets in that audio - actual passwords and whatnot.
- malermeister 3y agoMight be a fun follow-up to try and decode whatever's in there.
- Kalabasa 3y agoI like how they can animate their posts in this cohost social networking site. (See the transcript section)
- SigmundurM 3y agoCheckout the "css crimes" tag on cohost, there's some pretty cool stuff there! https://cohost.org/rc/tagged/css%20crimes https://cohost.org/rc/tagged/css%20crimes
- apimade 3y agoI wonder if those sounds are they sounds of bits/byte data. There’s some regularity to it so it’s likely somewhat structured.
- RichieAHB 3y agoThe last 15 seconds sounds like it hit the runout groove on the IKEA phone system vinyl!
- hoc 3y agoThat modem comms sound is IKEA's backhacking attempt. Much more advanced than touch tones. Beware!
- darkwater 3y agoOff-topic but TIL about CoHost and Anti Software Club [1] [1] https://antisoftware.club/ https://antisoftware.club/
- sva_ 3y agoI dig the aesthetics of that website.
- sneak 3y agoIt’s really impressive how overbroad and subjective the cohost terms of service are with regards to what you’re allowed to post on your own site. Why does every microblogging platform now feel compelled to insert moral and social commentary in their site rules? What happened to the poster being responsible for the things that they post? We don’t blame the telephone company when people say bad things on phone calls.
- deanishe 3y ago> We don’t blame the telephone company A phone company should have no idea what its customers say during calls. Blogs are public.