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There is no definitive way to answer your question. It depends entirely on your target audience and how much effort your company is willing to put towards suppo

by lycos 3y ago

There is no definitive way to answer your question. It depends entirely on your target audience and how much effort your company is willing to put towards support a, I will admit, likely minority. Some of us need to.

JoshTriplett 3y ago
I'm genuinely curious to hear which non-evergreen browsers people are having to support. Niche mobile browsers from ancient Android phones? Some of the more obscure mobile browsers from https://caniuse.com/ciu/comparison https://caniuse.com/ciu/comparison , or even more obscure ones that aren't listed there? To what extent are those platforms unable to support a better browser? For instance, Firefox works all the way back to Android 5.0.
- lycos 3y ago
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  - JoshTriplett 3y ago
    > and not everyone installs update (or uses devices that can't be updated); That's exactly the kind of example I was looking for, thank you; the idea that people would run iOS and not get Safari updates had not occurred to me, and that's an entirely valid use case and a potentially large user cohort for some sites. Sites with such users would indeed be unable to make immediate use of features just because they're in evergreen browsers. Thanks for the explanation. I know that there are plenty of people out there who are not looking to change their mind. This was not one of those cases. In this case, I was looking to hear the benefit of the experiences behind your comment of "Some of us need to", and hearing it helped me update from "it's safe to rely on evergreen browsers" to "it may still be necessary for some sites to check statistics on usage of old Safari among their users, and adapt accordingly".
- reaperducer 3y ago
  I'm genuinely curious to hear which non-evergreen browsers people are having to support. Browsers on devices (sometimes iPads, sometimes Android) that are inside touch-screen kiosks. Some of the ones I work with are in places so remote, it would take me three or four days to reach them if a software update goes wrong. Then another three or four days to get back to the office.

by lycos 3y ago

JoshTriplett 3y ago

I'm genuinely curious to hear which non-evergreen browsers people are having to support. Niche mobile browsers from ancient Android phones? Some of the more obscure mobile browsers from https://caniuse.com/ciu/comparison https://caniuse.com/ciu/comparison , or even more obscure ones that aren't listed there? To what extent are those platforms unable to support a better browser? For instance, Firefox works all the way back to Android 5.0.

lycos 3y ago
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- JoshTriplett 3y ago
  > and not everyone installs update (or uses devices that can't be updated); That's exactly the kind of example I was looking for, thank you; the idea that people would run iOS and not get Safari updates had not occurred to me, and that's an entirely valid use case and a potentially large user cohort for some sites. Sites with such users would indeed be unable to make immediate use of features just because they're in evergreen browsers. Thanks for the explanation. I know that there are plenty of people out there who are not looking to change their mind. This was not one of those cases. In this case, I was looking to hear the benefit of the experiences behind your comment of "Some of us need to", and hearing it helped me update from "it's safe to rely on evergreen browsers" to "it may still be necessary for some sites to check statistics on usage of old Safari among their users, and adapt accordingly".
reaperducer 3y ago
I'm genuinely curious to hear which non-evergreen browsers people are having to support. Browsers on devices (sometimes iPads, sometimes Android) that are inside touch-screen kiosks. Some of the ones I work with are in places so remote, it would take me three or four days to reach them if a software update goes wrong. Then another three or four days to get back to the office.