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What's the difference from opening a Terminal (Admin) window? Just that you can run a single command as admin? I must be missing something here

Isthatablackgsd 3y ago
Opening a terminal in admin window which means any commands you put in that windows will always have admin privilege, no matter what. What does Sudo is to only provide the root/admin privileges for specific inputted command. Once it is done, it goes back to user privileges. This way, the terminal window didn't need to end the session to go back to user privileges.
- gwervc 3y ago
  That's a very slim proposition value, especially when multiple commands in a row require admin privileges.
  - MattPalmer1086 3y ago
    Sudo also allows you to control which commands can be elevated to admin. It also lets you elevate to admin without knowing the admin password, you elevate with your normal account password. Effectively, some commands can execute as admin, but the user generally cannot. So you can allow limited administration without giving everything away.
  - bigstrat2003 3y ago
    That's like saying (in a Linux context) "sudo is dumb because you can just use su". The two tools have different use cases.
  - whywhywhywhy 3y ago
    Good thing they're keeping the admin terminal too so you can just keep using that. Personally I think it's way more likely the admin command is the one off like installing something, changing a setting and then everything else before and between it are user commands that don't need to be in admin space most of the time.
- ikekkdcjkfke 3y ago
  Why is admin privilidge even a thing? Ask for the god damn specific resource you want access to and I'll answer yes or no!
  - dwattttt 3y ago
    "Admin"'s identity is the resource you're asking permissions to use. If don't want identities, are you going to manually authorize every file that needs to be interacted with? For a recursive delete of thousands of files?
    - LudwigNagasena 3y ago
      You would authorize deletion in a specific directory.
      - deleted 3y ago
        [deleted]
  - eviks 3y ago
    Is that the shiny new capabilities based future that never arrives?
remus 3y ago
> Just that you can run a single command as admin? I mean, that's sudo's whole thing! [1] You can live your day to day terminal life without the risk of borking things too badly, then when you occasionally need to elevate to higher privileges you can do it easily for that specific command. [1] Technically not the whole thing obviously, but it's a very common use case.
- Repulsion9513 3y ago
  That has nothing to do with sudo; you could do the same with su -c long before sudo existed...
  - bogantech 3y ago
    If you know the root password
    - Repulsion9513 3y ago
      Defaults targetpw The point of sudo is not which password is used, whatsoever.
dist-epoch 3y ago
It's faster and it keeps your current directory, opening a new Terminal starts in the default directory. It's a convenience thing.

Isthatablackgsd 3y ago

Opening a terminal in admin window which means any commands you put in that windows will always have admin privilege, no matter what. What does Sudo is to only provide the root/admin privileges for specific inputted command. Once it is done, it goes back to user privileges. This way, the terminal window didn't need to end the session to go back to user privileges.

gwervc 3y ago
That's a very slim proposition value, especially when multiple commands in a row require admin privileges.
- MattPalmer1086 3y ago
  Sudo also allows you to control which commands can be elevated to admin. It also lets you elevate to admin without knowing the admin password, you elevate with your normal account password. Effectively, some commands can execute as admin, but the user generally cannot. So you can allow limited administration without giving everything away.
- bigstrat2003 3y ago
  That's like saying (in a Linux context) "sudo is dumb because you can just use su". The two tools have different use cases.
- whywhywhywhy 3y ago
  Good thing they're keeping the admin terminal too so you can just keep using that. Personally I think it's way more likely the admin command is the one off like installing something, changing a setting and then everything else before and between it are user commands that don't need to be in admin space most of the time.
ikekkdcjkfke 3y ago
Why is admin privilidge even a thing? Ask for the god damn specific resource you want access to and I'll answer yes or no!
- dwattttt 3y ago
  "Admin"'s identity is the resource you're asking permissions to use. If don't want identities, are you going to manually authorize every file that needs to be interacted with? For a recursive delete of thousands of files?
  - LudwigNagasena 3y ago
    You would authorize deletion in a specific directory.
    - deleted 3y ago
      [deleted]
- eviks 3y ago
  Is that the shiny new capabilities based future that never arrives?

remus 3y ago

> Just that you can run a single command as admin? I mean, that's sudo's whole thing! [1] You can live your day to day terminal life without the risk of borking things too badly, then when you occasionally need to elevate to higher privileges you can do it easily for that specific command. [1] Technically not the whole thing obviously, but it's a very common use case.

Repulsion9513 3y ago
That has nothing to do with sudo; you could do the same with su -c long before sudo existed...
- bogantech 3y ago
  If you know the root password
  - Repulsion9513 3y ago
    Defaults targetpw The point of sudo is not which password is used, whatsoever.

dist-epoch 3y ago

It's faster and it keeps your current directory, opening a new Terminal starts in the default directory. It's a convenience thing.