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This is solvable with parking permit programs. Make street parking in those surrounding neighborhoods resident-only. And then people considering living in the "

This is solvable with parking permit programs. Make street parking in those surrounding neighborhoods resident-only. And then people considering living in the "underparked" neighborhood who need parking will have no alternative but to select units that include parking, or live in another neighborhood (and if enough people opt not to live there, developers will include more parking to satisfy demand). This is a problem regular markets can fix: governments don't need to require developers to meet (or often, exceed!) what people actually want.

nradov 3y ago
Where do guests park when they come to visit?
- alexanderchr 3y ago
  Where I’ve lived it’s usually been solved by letting anyone park there for a higher fee. Residents get to park at a big discount or for free. Or you can hand out guest passes to residents.
  - nradov 3y ago
    So then the city has to issue parking passes plus guest passes, and then actually enforce them. Seems totally impractical for all but the densest cities.
    - alexanderchr 3y ago
      Sure there's some administration but it can be mostly handled digitally nowadays. I've seen it work in many cities that are not particularly dense by European standards. The enforcement are handled by the same people that do normal parking enforcement. They scan the plates, see if there's a valid permit/ticket and write a ticket otherwise.
      - nradov 3y ago
        Which "people" do normal parking enforcement? Most cities do zero parking enforcement in residential neighborhoods unless someone specifically complains.
- FooBarBizBazz 3y ago
  Where I saw this, households would generally pay for a 2hr guest permit (maximum one per household, or maybe two) that they lend visitors to display in their windshield, and if someone needs to stay longer, then you pay for a temporary two-day guest permit at the parking office. Either way, the permit is used for street parking. Finding a spot can be a minor adventure but is usually doable. You may have to walk a block. If someone is visiting for longer then they probably need to pay for a spot in a parking garage, or just -- fly in and leave the car at home.
- Ekaros 3y ago
  They don't. It so simple. Or they walk or bike whole distance. I think after we have fixed the car parking, we really should start looking into those bikes and ban them from street parking.
  - nradov 3y ago
    That comment is so ridiculously out of touch. Most of my guests are coming from outside of biking distance.
- jjav 3y ago
  > Where do guests park when they come to visit? This is indeed one of the biggest problems with such parking permit scheme. What happens is the resident needs to move their car to the street (possibly driving around for a long while to find a spot) so the guest can park on their driveway. It's a pain for everyone involved. And you better never have a party where more than a couple people visit at once.
jjav 3y ago
> (and if enough people opt not to live there, developers will include more parking to satisfy demand) Factories that produce widgets can pretty quickly adjust the specs to changing demand. Houses don't work on that schedule. If enough people want to buy a house but they need parking but those units don't exist, there is no way for developers to just change what's there to satisfy demand. That'll be a multi-decade effort.

nradov 3y ago

Where do guests park when they come to visit?

alexanderchr 3y ago
Where I’ve lived it’s usually been solved by letting anyone park there for a higher fee. Residents get to park at a big discount or for free. Or you can hand out guest passes to residents.
- nradov 3y ago
  So then the city has to issue parking passes plus guest passes, and then actually enforce them. Seems totally impractical for all but the densest cities.
  - alexanderchr 3y ago
    Sure there's some administration but it can be mostly handled digitally nowadays. I've seen it work in many cities that are not particularly dense by European standards. The enforcement are handled by the same people that do normal parking enforcement. They scan the plates, see if there's a valid permit/ticket and write a ticket otherwise.
    - nradov 3y ago
      Which "people" do normal parking enforcement? Most cities do zero parking enforcement in residential neighborhoods unless someone specifically complains.
FooBarBizBazz 3y ago
Where I saw this, households would generally pay for a 2hr guest permit (maximum one per household, or maybe two) that they lend visitors to display in their windshield, and if someone needs to stay longer, then you pay for a temporary two-day guest permit at the parking office. Either way, the permit is used for street parking. Finding a spot can be a minor adventure but is usually doable. You may have to walk a block. If someone is visiting for longer then they probably need to pay for a spot in a parking garage, or just -- fly in and leave the car at home.
Ekaros 3y ago
They don't. It so simple. Or they walk or bike whole distance. I think after we have fixed the car parking, we really should start looking into those bikes and ban them from street parking.
- nradov 3y ago
  That comment is so ridiculously out of touch. Most of my guests are coming from outside of biking distance.
jjav 3y ago
> Where do guests park when they come to visit? This is indeed one of the biggest problems with such parking permit scheme. What happens is the resident needs to move their car to the street (possibly driving around for a long while to find a spot) so the guest can park on their driveway. It's a pain for everyone involved. And you better never have a party where more than a couple people visit at once.

jjav 3y ago

> (and if enough people opt not to live there, developers will include more parking to satisfy demand) Factories that produce widgets can pretty quickly adjust the specs to changing demand. Houses don't work on that schedule. If enough people want to buy a house but they need parking but those units don't exist, there is no way for developers to just change what's there to satisfy demand. That'll be a multi-decade effort.