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63 points by ryanstewart 14y ago

follower 14y ago
While it's obviously early days, what I find most interesting about this is that it's (a) Adobe, (b) Open Source and (c) developing in the open. Does anyone know more about how this came to be/what the plans are for the future?
- benologist 14y ago
  Adobe does lots of open source.... most of Flash is.
  - AndreCharland 14y ago
    Well there's also PhoneGap (Apache Cordova), jQuery we contribute too and as well as Webkit now. On the enterprise side CQ/Day is built off Apache Jackrabbit which Adobe engineers contribute.
- adrocknaphobia 14y ago
  The history of the project is quite simple. We wanted to see if it was possible to build a high quality code editor for web development in JavaScript, HTML and CSS. The idea being two fold. The engineers working on Brackets would experience the day-to-day development pains of building for the web so they would be in a better position to innovate new solutions. The other benefit is that most open source tools are out of the reach of their target audiences. If you have the skills to use Brackets, you have the skills to build Brackets. Our original prototype ran completely in the browser using node.js for file i/o. So why did we take it out of the browser and focus on the desktop first? While we believe the future of development is heading towards the cloud, we found that many people are still looking for traditional desktop tools. By starting on he desktop and then supplementing with a cloud-based version, we hope to help transition developers to this new model, without asking them to give up what know and love. Of course, it's not just about the cloud. Because we're developing on the open web platform, we can go wherever that platforms goes. While it's not our immediate focus we hope to build a version of Brackets optimized for tablets as well as an embedded version that could run inside existing web application. Adobe has committed some of its best engineering talent to the project for the foreseeable future. If you check the activity on the repo, you'll see it's not a part-time side project. We have a long way to go before we would declare 1.0, but we think we can get there for the desktop version within the year. I invite everyone to join our mailing list (http://groups.google.com/group/brackets-dev http://groups.google.com/group/brackets-dev) or pop in to Freenode IRC channel #brackets to chat w/ the development team. --- Adam Lehman Brackets Product Manager
  - follower 14y ago
    Thanks for your thoughtful and helpful reply. :)
ricardobeat 14y ago
It doesn't run in the browser at the moment, the actual app can be downloaded here: https://github.com/adobe/brackets-app https://github.com/adobe/brackets-app (you'll have to download the brackets repo too and put it inside the `brackets` folder)
- deleted 14y ago
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vamega 14y ago
It doesn't work on Linux. The brackets-app only has code for windows and mac.
- tzs 14y ago
  It's HTML, CSS, and JavaScript running on top of CEF. CEF works on Linux, so it should be pretty easy for someone to get Bracket running on Linux.
  - drivebyacct2 14y ago
    For those who don't know, CEF is apparently this: http://code.google.com/p/chromiumembedded/ http://code.google.com/p/chromiumembedded/ I had just wondered last week if something nice like this existed.
tar 14y ago
This is Win/Mac only. There does not seem to be a Linux version.
bprater 14y ago
Demo?
RoryH 14y ago
Would be interested to see a demo or screenshots also!
- samirahmed 14y ago
  Certainly agree. Not even a link to a static project description page (as far as I could tell) I couldn't find a single picture with a quick browse through. (I know this is superficial) but no screenshot/screencast/videos is bad marketing and doesn't get me as excited about a project
  - toni 14y ago
    Here is a quick screenshot[1] from the main window. It's still far away from being really useful, but as an experiment, it looks decent. I personally recommend Eclipse Orion[2], it's not as stylish as Brackets but is fully functional and you can even import repositories from github. [1] http://i.imgur.com/7Wa6p.png http://i.imgur.com/7Wa6p.png [2] http://www.eclipse.org/orion/getstarted.php http://www.eclipse.org/orion/getstarted.php (choose "Download and Install Orion on your localhost")
    - drivebyacct2 14y ago
      I tried to compare CodeMirror, Ace and Orion a while back. Orion... well, it certainly feels like it's made by the Eclipse team. The splash page is flashy, but Orion itself looks and feels terribly clunky. I think Ace (part of Cloud9) looks nicer and as far as I could tell, did everything Orion does. It also will import Git repos. Did you find anything that Orion does particularly well or better than besides Git repos?
      - toni 14y ago
        I agree that Cloud9 looks very stylish compared to Orion. One thing i like about Orion is comment and code folding features. I also liked how easy it was to just download and run Orion, as opposed to "building" cloud9 with all the dependancies and such. But yeah, if you appreciate beauty, certainly going with cloud9 is the obvious choice.
drivebyacct2 14y ago
Looks like the editor is based on CodeMirror from a brief peak at the source.
doodyhead 14y ago
I don't think the world needs another desktop editor, but it'll be interesting to see where it goes with web-based editing with Adobe behind it. Ace seems to be a better alternative for now and is entirely JS-based: http://ace.ajax.org/ http://ace.ajax.org/
DavidAbrams 14y ago
"built in HTML, CSS and JavaScript." Why is that good? Eclipse is built in Java, and it's janky.
- chc 14y ago
  What does Java have to do with anything?
pjmlp 14y ago
bleh, another web thingy editor.
jmitcheson 14y ago
"Although Brackets is built in HTML/CSS/JS, it currently runs as a desktop application in a thin native shell, so that it can access your local files. (If you just try to open the index.html file in a browser, it won't work yet.)"
micheljansen 14y ago
Was impressed until I had to download 125(!) MB of Desktop app to be able to run it.

63 points by ryanstewart 14y ago

While it's obviously early days, what I find most interesting about this is that it's (a) Adobe, (b) Open Source and (c) developing in the open. Does anyone know more about how this came to be/what the plans are for the future?

benologist 14y ago
Adobe does lots of open source.... most of Flash is.
- AndreCharland 14y ago
  Well there's also PhoneGap (Apache Cordova), jQuery we contribute too and as well as Webkit now. On the enterprise side CQ/Day is built off Apache Jackrabbit which Adobe engineers contribute.
adrocknaphobia 14y ago
The history of the project is quite simple. We wanted to see if it was possible to build a high quality code editor for web development in JavaScript, HTML and CSS. The idea being two fold. The engineers working on Brackets would experience the day-to-day development pains of building for the web so they would be in a better position to innovate new solutions. The other benefit is that most open source tools are out of the reach of their target audiences. If you have the skills to use Brackets, you have the skills to build Brackets. Our original prototype ran completely in the browser using node.js for file i/o. So why did we take it out of the browser and focus on the desktop first? While we believe the future of development is heading towards the cloud, we found that many people are still looking for traditional desktop tools. By starting on he desktop and then supplementing with a cloud-based version, we hope to help transition developers to this new model, without asking them to give up what know and love. Of course, it's not just about the cloud. Because we're developing on the open web platform, we can go wherever that platforms goes. While it's not our immediate focus we hope to build a version of Brackets optimized for tablets as well as an embedded version that could run inside existing web application. Adobe has committed some of its best engineering talent to the project for the foreseeable future. If you check the activity on the repo, you'll see it's not a part-time side project. We have a long way to go before we would declare 1.0, but we think we can get there for the desktop version within the year. I invite everyone to join our mailing list (http://groups.google.com/group/brackets-dev http://groups.google.com/group/brackets-dev) or pop in to Freenode IRC channel #brackets to chat w/ the development team. --- Adam Lehman Brackets Product Manager
- follower 14y ago
  Thanks for your thoughtful and helpful reply. :)

ricardobeat 14y ago

It doesn't run in the browser at the moment, the actual app can be downloaded here: https://github.com/adobe/brackets-app https://github.com/adobe/brackets-app (you'll have to download the brackets repo too and put it inside the `brackets` folder)

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vamega 14y ago

It doesn't work on Linux. The brackets-app only has code for windows and mac.

tzs 14y ago
It's HTML, CSS, and JavaScript running on top of CEF. CEF works on Linux, so it should be pretty easy for someone to get Bracket running on Linux.
- drivebyacct2 14y ago
  For those who don't know, CEF is apparently this: http://code.google.com/p/chromiumembedded/ http://code.google.com/p/chromiumembedded/ I had just wondered last week if something nice like this existed.

tar 14y ago

This is Win/Mac only. There does not seem to be a Linux version.

bprater 14y ago

Demo?

RoryH 14y ago

Would be interested to see a demo or screenshots also!

samirahmed 14y ago
Certainly agree. Not even a link to a static project description page (as far as I could tell) I couldn't find a single picture with a quick browse through. (I know this is superficial) but no screenshot/screencast/videos is bad marketing and doesn't get me as excited about a project
- toni 14y ago
  Here is a quick screenshot[1] from the main window. It's still far away from being really useful, but as an experiment, it looks decent. I personally recommend Eclipse Orion[2], it's not as stylish as Brackets but is fully functional and you can even import repositories from github. [1] http://i.imgur.com/7Wa6p.png http://i.imgur.com/7Wa6p.png [2] http://www.eclipse.org/orion/getstarted.php http://www.eclipse.org/orion/getstarted.php (choose "Download and Install Orion on your localhost")
  - drivebyacct2 14y ago
    I tried to compare CodeMirror, Ace and Orion a while back. Orion... well, it certainly feels like it's made by the Eclipse team. The splash page is flashy, but Orion itself looks and feels terribly clunky. I think Ace (part of Cloud9) looks nicer and as far as I could tell, did everything Orion does. It also will import Git repos. Did you find anything that Orion does particularly well or better than besides Git repos?
    - toni 14y ago
      I agree that Cloud9 looks very stylish compared to Orion. One thing i like about Orion is comment and code folding features. I also liked how easy it was to just download and run Orion, as opposed to "building" cloud9 with all the dependancies and such. But yeah, if you appreciate beauty, certainly going with cloud9 is the obvious choice.

drivebyacct2 14y ago

Looks like the editor is based on CodeMirror from a brief peak at the source.

doodyhead 14y ago

I don't think the world needs another desktop editor, but it'll be interesting to see where it goes with web-based editing with Adobe behind it. Ace seems to be a better alternative for now and is entirely JS-based: http://ace.ajax.org/ http://ace.ajax.org/

DavidAbrams 14y ago

"built in HTML, CSS and JavaScript." Why is that good? Eclipse is built in Java, and it's janky.

chc 14y ago
What does Java have to do with anything?

pjmlp 14y ago

bleh, another web thingy editor.

jmitcheson 14y ago

"Although Brackets is built in HTML/CSS/JS, it currently runs as a desktop application in a thin native shell, so that it can access your local files. (If you just try to open the index.html file in a browser, it won't work yet.)"

micheljansen 14y ago

Was impressed until I had to download 125(!) MB of Desktop app to be able to run it.