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Moralizing aside, which ones specifically can infect you even if you wear a condom?

1999-03-31 3y ago
https://www.cdc.gov/condomeffectiveness/brief.html https://www.cdc.gov/condomeffectiveness/brief.html Notably herpes, hpv and syphilis can still be transmitted
- swagempire 3y ago
  "The most reliable ways to avoid transmission of STDs are to abstain from sexual activity, or to be in a long-term mutually monogamous relationship with an uninfected partner" Sounds very much like some Christian agenda bring pushed here. 50% of the population gets herpes and syphilis gets cured with antibiotics. HPV has a vaccine. The article itself says you won't get anything if you use a condom properly. But hey -- don't leave the house for fear of a car accident type thing...
  - DoesntMatter22 3y ago
    "Sounds very much like some Christian agenda bring pushed here." You must be kidding. You are accusing the CDC of using a scientific fact (that is pretty obvious) of "Pushing a Christian agenda"? First of all, you are using HSV1 stats, which aren't the ones we are talking about, we are talking about Genital Herpes, which among adults affects only about 13%. https://khealth.com/learn/herpes/statistics/#:~:text=is%20less%20common.-,How%20Many%20People%20Have%20Herpes%20Worldwide%3F,population%2C%20or%20491%20million%20people https://khealth.com/learn/herpes/statistics/#:~:text=is%20le.... And "syphilis Gets cured with antibiotics" isnt that accurate either. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9785152/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9785152/ If you have the money for antibiotics, which many don't and you catch it early enough, which some don't, then yes it can be cured. However, as that link shows there are emergent antibiotic resistant strains that can absolutely destroy your life. As far as HPV goes there are huge sections of the population who don't have the HPV vaccine, some can't afford it even. People can do what they want, but objectively being promiscuous is dangerous to your health. It's less a question of it, but rather when.
    - ChainOfFools 3y ago
      No no, you have it wrong, the person you're replying to is clearly just more comfortable with the topic of sex than you, and therefore we are expected to infer, better at it than you. This is the actual message of their comment, and all that are like it.
      - DoesntMatter22 3y ago
        I've noticed a lot of comments like theirs whenever STD's come up. It's just strange to me that people value choice over their own health. Like yeah you have a right to jump off a cliff to spite others who tell you it's dangerous, but ultimately you are the loser there... idk
        pests 3y ago
        It's strange to me people would jump out of perfectly working planes. Yet they do
Traubenfuchs 3y ago
The only STDs reliably prevented through condoms are probably HIV and trichomoniasis. You can get all of the following (probably 99% of all relevant STD cases recruit from those) via kissing (and blowjobs) alone: Syphilis, Gonorrhoea, Chlamydia, urea/myco-plasma, crabs, HPV, HSV, several borderline-STD bacteria like H. parainfluenca.

1999-03-31 3y ago

https://www.cdc.gov/condomeffectiveness/brief.html https://www.cdc.gov/condomeffectiveness/brief.html Notably herpes, hpv and syphilis can still be transmitted

swagempire 3y ago
"The most reliable ways to avoid transmission of STDs are to abstain from sexual activity, or to be in a long-term mutually monogamous relationship with an uninfected partner" Sounds very much like some Christian agenda bring pushed here. 50% of the population gets herpes and syphilis gets cured with antibiotics. HPV has a vaccine. The article itself says you won't get anything if you use a condom properly. But hey -- don't leave the house for fear of a car accident type thing...
- DoesntMatter22 3y ago
  "Sounds very much like some Christian agenda bring pushed here." You must be kidding. You are accusing the CDC of using a scientific fact (that is pretty obvious) of "Pushing a Christian agenda"? First of all, you are using HSV1 stats, which aren't the ones we are talking about, we are talking about Genital Herpes, which among adults affects only about 13%. https://khealth.com/learn/herpes/statistics/#:~:text=is%20less%20common.-,How%20Many%20People%20Have%20Herpes%20Worldwide%3F,population%2C%20or%20491%20million%20people https://khealth.com/learn/herpes/statistics/#:~:text=is%20le.... And "syphilis Gets cured with antibiotics" isnt that accurate either. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9785152/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9785152/ If you have the money for antibiotics, which many don't and you catch it early enough, which some don't, then yes it can be cured. However, as that link shows there are emergent antibiotic resistant strains that can absolutely destroy your life. As far as HPV goes there are huge sections of the population who don't have the HPV vaccine, some can't afford it even. People can do what they want, but objectively being promiscuous is dangerous to your health. It's less a question of it, but rather when.
  - ChainOfFools 3y ago
    No no, you have it wrong, the person you're replying to is clearly just more comfortable with the topic of sex than you, and therefore we are expected to infer, better at it than you. This is the actual message of their comment, and all that are like it.
    - DoesntMatter22 3y ago
      I've noticed a lot of comments like theirs whenever STD's come up. It's just strange to me that people value choice over their own health. Like yeah you have a right to jump off a cliff to spite others who tell you it's dangerous, but ultimately you are the loser there... idk
      - pests 3y ago
        It's strange to me people would jump out of perfectly working planes. Yet they do

Traubenfuchs 3y ago

The only STDs reliably prevented through condoms are probably HIV and trichomoniasis. You can get all of the following (probably 99% of all relevant STD cases recruit from those) via kissing (and blowjobs) alone: Syphilis, Gonorrhoea, Chlamydia, urea/myco-plasma, crabs, HPV, HSV, several borderline-STD bacteria like H. parainfluenca.